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2006-09-02 08:19:24 pm

Cook of the Sea

Got the gun ref and fixed some stuff:

2006-09-03 12:03:24 am

red chamber dream

Hand still looks huge. I get that you're going for perspective, but it's just not working. I don't see how her hand could be that close to the "camera" with her body so turned like that.

2006-09-03 12:16:03 am

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Ready and willing.

Actually it ends up looking to me more like "forearm too small" than "hand too huge". Although, I'm allowing the hand leeway since it's inside a cool tech thingie. If the tech thingie isn't supposed to add a little bit of size to the hand...

2006-09-03 12:27:09 am

red chamber dream

Well, most of what we're seeing is actually the skin of her hand and fingers (I think...), and that itself looks huge. It's really hard to tell what the flickerbat is going on with that hand, and yes, I do see where all the fingers are, but all the lines (rings? mechanical devices? I have no clue) confuse me.

2006-09-03 03:33:17 pm

Cook of the Sea

I think I finally fixed the hand problem. The problem was that I was scaling it for a man, not a woman.

2006-09-03 03:51:27 pm

red chamber dream

Looks a million times better. Your ability to redraw things exactly is incredible.

And yes, I'd say your manscaling was definitely a problem. :P

2006-09-07 02:41:21 pm

Cook of the Sea

I'm not overly thrilled with this one but I like parts of it:

Primarily the hand holding the glass and the jawline.

2006-09-07 02:51:34 pm

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Ready and willing.

What, the bar isn't floating via an antigrav device shaped like a glove?

2006-09-07 04:32:42 pm

red chamber dream

Loving the odd shape of the glass.

2006-09-07 11:23:44 pm

First picture looks great, but I'll agree with Yosh on the arm being too small. The bottom of the elbow should come to just above the hip bone in that position, and even if her shoulder was scrunched up as far as she could get it, there'd still be no more than a hands width of space between pelvis and elbow. Some girth added as well, as it makes the arm look really atrophied in that position. Other than that gripe, the rest of the pic is freakin kick ass.

The last one looks nice, can't really tell what you'd be unhappy about in it, but the glass is a nice touch with it's odd curviness :D

2006-09-08 01:01:10 pm

Quote from WhiteStar47:

First picture looks great, but I'll agree with Yosh on the arm being too small. The bottom of the elbow should come to just above the hip bone in that position, and even if her shoulder was scrunched up as far as she could get it, there'd still be no more than a hands width of space between pelvis and elbow. Some girth added as well, as it makes the arm look really atrophied in that position. Other than that gripe, the rest of the pic is freakin kick ass.

The last one looks nice, can't really tell what you'd be unhappy about in it, but the glass is a nice touch with it's odd curviness :D

I'm glad to see someone else giving detailed feedback, but, uh, wtf? I'm a short-waisted woman and I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be much less than the space his drawing shows between elbow and hip on me. Just sitting here (that is, somewhat scrunched) and holding my arm like that it's more like the distance from my wrist to fingertip between elbow and hipbone. I might agree about the left forearm.

The second picture has a lot wrong with it, though individual parts are OK. Saber's already gotten my detailed comments, but highlights include: the left index finger is cartoony in how the first joint narrows; the left hand is oversized; the left shoulder is curved too far forward; the right elbow is too far in back of the body; the right eye is too far from the nose; the lips, while well-shaped, are at the wrong angle relative to the rest of the face. That's also the squarest nostril I've ever seen.

[quote="WhiteStar47"]First picture looks great, but I'll agree with Yosh on the arm being too small.  The bottom of the elbow should come to just above the hip bone in that position, and even if her shoulder was scrunched up as far as she could get it, there'd still be no more than a hands width of space between pelvis and elbow. Some girth added as well, as it makes the arm look [i]really[/i] atrophied in that position.  Other than that gripe, the rest of the pic is freakin kick ass.

The last one looks nice, can't really tell what you'd be unhappy about in it, but the glass is a nice touch with it's odd curviness :D[/quote]
I'm glad to see someone else giving detailed feedback, but, uh, wtf?  I'm a short-waisted woman and I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be much less than the space his drawing shows between elbow and hip on me.  Just sitting here (that is, somewhat scrunched) and holding my arm like that it's more like the distance from my wrist to fingertip between elbow and hipbone.  I might agree about the left forearm.

The second picture has a lot wrong with it, though individual parts are OK.  Saber's already gotten my detailed comments, but highlights include: the left index finger is cartoony in how the first joint narrows; the left hand is oversized; the left shoulder is curved too far forward; the right elbow is too far in back of the body; the right eye is too far from the nose; the lips, while well-shaped, are at the wrong angle relative to the rest of the face.  That's also the squarest nostril I've ever seen.

2006-09-09 05:49:15 pm

Cook of the Sea

2006-09-09 05:56:34 pm

Too many fangirls to count

I get the joke. <_< Wow, that is wierd. I thought that Modus Ponens was just some crap my Geometry teacher used.

2006-09-09 08:28:01 pm

Cook of the Sea

What, Latin?

2006-09-09 08:34:51 pm

Too many fangirls to count

Well, it was a phrase we used. something like, if p, then q, it is modus ponens, and some other stuff with modus tollens.

2006-09-09 08:39:18 pm

Cook of the Sea

Sigh. Modus Ponens goes like this:

If A, then B
A
Ergo, B

Modus Tollens is:

If A, then B
Not B
Ergo, not A

modus_pwnens is a badass punk hacker chick from the 22nd century.

2006-09-09 09:18:55 pm

Quote from mangadood:

Well, it was a phrase we used.

Wait, you thought it was unique to your class? How strange.

2006-09-09 09:37:00 pm

Too many fangirls to count

well, we didn't need to know a phrase in latin for any certain obvious situation. >_>

2006-09-09 10:22:58 pm

red chamber dream

Saber: it's actually the norm to use P and Q rather than A and B (I've rarely seen it written using anything but P and Q at least), so mangadood was partially right.

I never understood why something as basic as that deserves such a fancy name, though. >_>

2006-09-09 10:26:33 pm

Too many fangirls to count

latin-100% fancy

2006-09-10 04:23:40 am

Yeah, I already told him about the P and Q thing. It shouldn't surprise you that there's a name for that kind of inference, though, any more than things like commutative or associative properties of addition. There are names for other logical constructs, such as De Morgan's Laws.

It does seem a bit strange to me that the term would come up in a geometry class, but I had symbolic logic before geometry and I think we didn't do much with proofs in the latter anyway.

Quote from mangadood:

latin-100% fancy

And yet you thought your teacher made up a "100% fancy" phrase for a basic concept in a basic class? Do you bother turning on your brain when you're in school? No wonder you're not getting much out of it.

2006-09-10 05:43:49 am

l'appel du vide

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Swell.

2006-09-10 01:30:14 pm

Too many fangirls to count

What? I have a brain in school. I just already know what they are trying to teach me.

2006-09-10 01:31:58 pm

Cook of the Sea

Back on topic, people.

2006-09-11 02:11:36 pm

Cook of the Sea

Slightly younger, pre-tattoos.

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