MZM stuff

2006-01-22 07:26:07 am

http://rapidshare.de/files/11562335/MZM_stuff.zip.html
<- 4 movies in there. Sorry for rapidshare,don't know where else I should upload this.

-First,it is possible to get a shinespark to one of these ballspark-things from Ridley-> Norfair as you can see in one of the movies. For some reason,you will only destroy the first Speed block though. I don't know why. If you would only destroy the first Speed block using a diagonal shinespark and get another Shinespark in the room(you can't but I tried it with cheat codes), you can jump in the Norfair room and use a shinespark there to destroy these blocks. So they aren't resistant to Speed booster. Anyone knows why this happens?

-You can grab that one Chozodia E-Tank w/o going to the top of the room(like that one NOC Pb in Fusion). It's useless though. The movie was done with tools, but I think it would be humanly possible.

-One 100% run Speedtrick in Norfair I found some time before. It's one of the hardest Speedtricks to do,but I've done it on the cart. Saves maybe three seconds.

You know these Missile and Super missile pack in Norfair one would get after Gravity suit in an 100% Normal run? It is obviously faster to Space boost through that one room before them instead of shinesparking. Saves maybe 1-2 seconds,but it is pretty easy imo.

-I had another idea for a speedtrick for that missile/Super missile. Turns out that it can only be done in a TAS, but I added it anyway. It is pretty cool imo.

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http://rapidshare.de/files/11562335/MZM_stuff.zip.html
<- 4 movies in there. Sorry for rapidshare,don't know where else I should upload this.

-First,it is possible to get a shinespark to one of these ballspark-things from Ridley-> Norfair as you can see in one of the movies. For some reason,you will only destroy the first Speed block though. I don't know why. If you would only destroy the first Speed block using a diagonal shinespark and get another Shinespark in the room(you can't but I tried it with cheat codes), you can jump in the Norfair room and use a shinespark there to destroy these blocks. So they aren't resistant to Speed booster. Anyone knows why this happens?

-You can grab that one Chozodia E-Tank w/o going to the top of the room(like that one NOC Pb in Fusion). It's useless though. The movie was done with tools, but I think it would be humanly possible.

-One 100% run Speedtrick in Norfair I found some time before. It's one of the hardest Speedtricks to do,but I've done it on the cart. Saves maybe three seconds.

You know these Missile and Super missile pack in Norfair one would get after Gravity suit in an 100% Normal run? It is obviously faster to Space boost through that one room before them instead of shinesparking. Saves maybe  1-2 seconds,but it is pretty easy imo.

-I had another idea for a speedtrick for that missile/Super missile. Turns out that it can only be done in a TAS, but I added it anyway. It is pretty cool imo.

nate

2006-01-22 10:47:15 am

need reviews and recommendations for site posting on this stuff.

kwinse

2006-01-22 12:39:15 pm

The Chozodia_E-Tank and no_ballspark are, more or less, just oddities; not much use that I see. That Norfair_cleanup_r****_Speed is neato; I'm going to try to remember to use in my speed run. Sadly I'm too far in the game to use Speedtrick_Norfair, but that looks like a nice timesaver.

Overall, well done! :D

Dragonfangs

2006-01-22 03:48:37 pm

no_ballspark: Just an oddity, I don't see any reason for that too happen. Could possibly go in the other section.

Cozodia_E-tank: From his comments I assume it's not useful at all. So meh.

Norfair_cleanup_raped_speed: I've never tried speed running ZM 100% so I wouldn't know if it's useful or not, it probably is though, too bad it's borged. And what's with the graphical glitch?

Speedtrick_norfair: Looks pretty neat, it's possible real-time albeit hard, and it saves time. Enough for the site IMO.

transience

2006-01-22 04:59:14 pm

twenty eight fifty

chozodia e-tank - i am not sure; it looks more like an oddity than something that would be useful speed-wise. if you're only thinking of adding this as a "speed trick", i would say no, but it is interesting.

norfair raped - this would be useful if it were possible. i have not tried it and the word 'raped' attached to it makes me wonder. i can test this out if you need me to, but it'll take me a bit to get there.

speedtrick_norfair - this is something xtrax has mentioned before. it is very difficult to do (i haven't been able to pull it off, but i only tried about twice), but would save time in a 100% run.

no_ballspark - completely useless, but again, interesting. i wonder what a ballspark would do instead of a shinespark, but even so it would be a waste of time.

as usual, xtrax has a good mind for speed tricks.

ajbolt89

2006-01-22 06:52:45 pm

lol no way

The one with the super missile/missile has... really weird scrolling glitch effect. That caught me really off-guard, but it seems like it would be possible... and would be much faster than the normal way, except that the present time in which those items are collected means you'd have to run back to the edge of the platform, then go all the way into the bubble room, and now that I think about how it's presently done, I doubt if it would be faster. Still, looks neat.

XtraX

2006-01-23 08:07:55 am

@ajbolt89: You don't have to run back to the edge,just Space jump through the room before,didn't make a vid of that,as it is pretty easy to understand,I guess.
Besides that, I *really* doubt anyone could do that raped trick w/o using tools. I really suck at this,but it still took me like half an hour to get it done using Frame advance >_>

Raccoon Sam

2006-01-23 10:53:06 am

That Norfair shinespark thing was awesome