My opinion...not that it matters.

2010-09-04 01:40:23 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Toozin:

They should give HAL a shot at the next Metroid. They certianly couldn't do worse than the last few. And they'd totally do a boss rush.

This would be the best thing.

HUDD

2010-09-04 04:13:26 am

HAL? hmmm. Didn't really think about that. It could work.

TheMG2

2010-09-04 09:22:29 am

HAL minus Sakurai = Sad

UchihaSasuke

2010-09-04 10:28:22 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

Quote from MarioGalaxy2433g5:

HAL minus Sakurai = Sad

didn't Sakurai destroy SSBB?

TheMG2

2010-09-04 11:28:44 pm

...He made the first two games anyways.

UchihaSasuke

2010-09-05 01:24:42 am

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

yeah but Sakamoto worked in Fusion and ZM. the guy could have still gone the wrong way.

TheMG2

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TheMG2: 2010-09-05 08:56:23 am

2010-09-05 08:56:00 am

Its a symbiotic relationship you see. When Sakurai is at HAL they do well. When apart, they both suffer.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-09-05 09:02:19 am

Quote from Toozin:

They should give HAL a shot at the next Metroid. They certianly couldn't do worse than the last few. And they'd totally do a boss rush.

What good is a boss rush if the bosses are lame?

Anyone who thinks Samus' model looks 64 bit needs to adjust their binoculars. I wouldn't be dissapointed with a PS3 game that looked like Other M.
A PS3 game as short as Other M, however, would leave me dissapointed.

UchihaSasuke

2010-09-05 07:17:36 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

isn't this game in line with almost every other Metroid game in length?

Melancholy Spork

2010-09-05 11:14:09 pm

Quote from UchihaSasuke:

isn't this game in line with almost every other Metroid game in length?

No, it's pretty short. My first run through took under 8 hours.

TheMG2

2010-09-05 11:15:40 pm

Well, a lot of Metroid games are short anyways. The only ones that aren't short are Primes, and that is debateable.

Turtle

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Turtle: 2010-09-06 04:22:52 pm

2010-09-06 04:22:43 pm

I like turtles.

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

What good is a boss rush if the bosses are lame?

I thought Ridley was pretty sweet. Like, exactly how a Ridley fight should be done in a 3D Metroid. None of that "go for the mouth/chestplate" crap. Ridley has always been about blasting away with your entire arsenal and hoping to the Chozo Spirits that you can avoid enough of his attacks to stay alive.

Chozoid

2010-09-07 12:26:54 am

^Amen to that.
IMO, I think they should kinda split up the series in terms of gameplay: some nonlinear like Super, some linear like Fusion/Corruption/Other M, and some in the middle like MZM. Also, they should most definitely contine the Prime series.

TheMG2

2010-09-07 06:27:42 am

NO! THEY SHOULDN'T CONTINUE PRIME. They dragged it on long enough and need to move on in the main series.

Melancholy Spork

2010-09-07 09:35:14 am

Yea, Prime is over and done with. It was good while it lasted.

Frankly, I think Metroid is one series they need to stop moving in "bold new directions". Other M isn't terrible but I've never played anything that felt less like a Metroid game. I really just want a 2.5D New Super Mario treatment. That would be perfect.

TheMG2

2010-09-07 04:23:18 pm

Quote from Melancholy Spork:

Other M isn't terrible but I've never played anything that felt less like a Metroid game.

LOL. I think you should have said "another Metroid game with a less Metroid-feel".

The problem is with all the other Metroidvania's out there, they pretty much have to.

Chozoid

2010-09-07 06:37:16 pm

I mean not with the Phazon story, but just the gameplay.

TheOthin

2010-09-07 06:47:09 pm

Quote from Chozoid:

^Amen to that.
IMO, I think they should kinda split up the series in terms of gameplay: some nonlinear like Super, some linear like Fusion/Corruption/Other M, and some in the middle like MZM. Also, they should most definitely contine the Prime series.

Zero Mission wasn't any less linear than Super Metroid was. It just didn't have many sequence breaks, and you can't expect the developers to plan for that.

Chozoid

2010-09-07 06:55:00 pm

Well, it did have the Chozo statues tell you where to go.

TheOthin

2010-09-07 06:59:27 pm

If you take the time to activate them, and you didn't have to listen. It didn't change the game enough to warrant much of a distinction.

Chozoid

2010-09-07 07:03:11 pm

Well if you think of it that way, you dont HAVE to listen to Adam's directions in Other M/Fusion for several parts.

TheOthin

2010-09-07 07:07:50 pm

You can deviate from the path a bit, but your destination is still set.

Chozoid

2010-09-07 07:09:28 pm

Same in MZM, Super, and Prime, save some sequence breaks.

ajbolt89

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ajbolt89: 2010-09-07 07:43:20 pm

2010-09-07 07:42:21 pm

lol no way

I think it's very possible to argue that Super and Prime have a unique situation. After bombs in super you can choose a variety of paths, really. Most of them are from breaks, but still, they show you bombjumping and such in the demo videos. Mock ball is a trick in line with scan-dashing, just using the open physics to our advantage. And Prime's almost the same in that from the start you can open the game up and almost do what you want. The difference to both is that it wasn't intentionally made that way, and only the very beginning parts force you along a path before it opens up. MZM does the same up to the first chozo statue, and then you're open to do what you want, but only to a certain extent, and all of it's intentionally mimicking the style of play that has developed for super and prime.
All I'm saying is SM and Prime are different from every other game in the series in design approach. They're different from one another too, but something about each approach is really open to the style of gameplay a sequence breaking board would be most focused on. The other six or whatever games in the series just don't have a style (physics or level design or something) that allows for much open exploration, instead they're straight-forward affairs. I think we expect a lot from Metroid that it wasn't ever really intended to live up to.

TheOthin

2010-09-07 07:47:53 pm

Quote from Chozoid:

Same in MZM, Super, and Prime, save some sequence breaks.

Much less is set than in Fusion and Other M. That's all that matters.

Why are we saying just MZM, Super, and Prime, anyway? Echoes has just been broken farther than Prime will ever be.