MorF bawl run. (renamed)

2005-02-22 02:08:11 pm

What about infinite posts? Or triple laddered posts? Have we unlocked those yet?

I'd love to see someone do a MP MB run - obviously, the rules would have to be changed; perhaps a certain percentage of the total time must be spent in ball form? (It'd be a bitch for the guy doing the calculation to have to mark the time every time she morphed.)

ajbolt89

2005-02-22 05:59:51 pm

lol no way

Snyt: Yeah man, I figure it wouldn't even be required to be in morF ball form at all until you get bombs, but like when I play through I try to morph after every jump just cause it's really hard and neat when you do it like near instantly... and it makes the start a bit different too, cause like you're rolling and instead of unmorphing and jumping I time it just right so I jump instantly when I unmorph so it looks like I'm spin-jumping outta morph ball form.
Long sentence, but it works I suppose.

Supuh

2005-03-11 03:48:35 pm

i have gotten 3 sections of my morF ball run done, however, to accompany some... err... sircustances, i am hoping you will take a few new rules and "techniques" to doing a mrphball run

New possible rules

1. "hit and run"- my term for getting out of acid, if you are at an area (like norfair for example) and get stuck in lava, you are allowed to get out by jumpng, HOWEVER, you must return to the platform you were on last or the one before it if you accidently went backwards and fell off.

2. the first unknown item When getting the first unknow item, since the room is flooded, i devised a rule entirly for that room, it this case, you are allowed to use the wall jump to get out of the water, but not to get the item (you must hbj to the thing, blow it up, wall up up the other side, and hbj to get the item in my case) you can use the walljump ONLY in that room to escape, otherwise, you gotta hit and run baby.

you may comment on these rules if you want, my first three segments use the hit and run, and the unknown item rule, i feel that this will make the morF ball run easier to accomplish for those who do not have acess to roms and must use a capature card like i do.

I thank you for any opinions on how to make this rule better, i will also upload my first three segments once i find a way to.

i have gotten 3 sections of my morF ball run done, however, to accompany some... err... sircustances, i am hoping you will take a few new rules and "techniques" to doing a mrphball run

New possible rules

1. "hit and run"- my term for getting out of acid, if you are at an area (like norfair for example) and get stuck in lava, you are allowed to get out by jumpng, HOWEVER, you must return to the platform you were on last or the one before it if you accidently went backwards and fell off.

2. the first unknown item When getting the first unknow item, since the room is flooded, i devised a rule entirly for that room, it this case, you are allowed to use the wall jump to get out of the water, but not to get the item (you must hbj to the thing, blow it up, wall up up the other side, and hbj to get the item in my case) you can use the walljump ONLY in that room to escape, otherwise, you gotta hit and run baby.

you may comment on these rules if you want, my first three segments use the hit and run, and the unknown item rule, i feel that this will make the morF ball run easier to accomplish for those who do not have acess to roms and must use a capature card like i do.

I thank you for any opinions on how to make this rule better, i will also upload my first three segments once i find a way to.

ajbolt89

2005-03-11 06:42:39 pm

lol no way

See, the problem with that first rule is just that... this run is not for speed so much as it is to show that we can do this without getting out of morph ball. If you can fall in the acid and then just restart, well, where's the challenge? It's stuff like not being able to pull back out of the acid that makes it more challenging. I dunno, other people might feel differently about that rule, but that's just my take on it.
As for your second rule... I don't like the hard way enough to disagree and say you have to do it the hard way, so I agree with you. Basically then we'd horizontal bombjump to the item, then unmorph, jump on the weird flashing blocks, and remorph from there.

Supuh

2005-03-11 10:39:44 pm

finally got part 1 uploaded, it took forever. cuz i had to restart without using hit n' runs, its 31 Mb O_O well, here ya go

http://www.freewebtown.com/supuh/morphball%20run-%20part%201.AVI

gleepdiddly

2005-03-17 06:53:04 pm

Cool, I might want to do a morphball run and then put in my sig, or maybe even the best times topic :D . Of course I would need a lot of practice though :(

transience

2005-03-19 04:28:56 am

twenty eight fifty

I started one of these, and I'm currently running around (rolling around, I guess) trying to get wave. (I'm not even sure if I can get wave; same for screw attack.) I stopped because my head was pulsing - there's only so much bombing I can do before I legally go insane.

some thoughts: is there a way to get past the ripper directly after ice? after dying on that dude once, I just decided freezing him was the way to go. I can't HBJ (or I've never tried, at least), so if there's something ridiculous I have to do, I just get out of ball for a second.

I'm wondering what the maximum percentage possible is - item acquisition is much more difficult when you can't go through lava. I went to get the energy tank where varia is and went '...dammit.' some items are just fun to get, and the room before ice beam is a ball. my guess would be 75% or so, maybe more.

I considered skipping the ziplines just to see how silly it looked, but then realized I'd need to use speed booster to get out. I guess I'll need to kill Imago in order to properly progress through Ridley as well.

I started one of these, and I'm currently running around (rolling around, I guess) trying to get wave. (I'm not even sure if I can get wave; same for screw attack.) I stopped because my head was pulsing - there's only so much bombing I can do before I legally go insane.

some thoughts: is there a way to get past the ripper directly after ice? after dying on that dude once, I just decided freezing him was the way to go. I can't HBJ (or I've never tried, at least), so if there's something ridiculous I have to do, I just get out of ball for a second.

I'm wondering what the maximum percentage possible is - item acquisition is much more difficult when you can't go through lava. I went to get the energy tank where varia is and went '...dammit.' some items are just fun to get, and the room before ice beam is a ball. my guess would be 75% or so, maybe more.

I considered skipping the ziplines just to see how silly it looked, but then realized I'd need to use speed booster to get out. I guess I'll need to kill Imago in order to properly progress through Ridley as well.

gleepdiddly

2005-03-19 06:26:30 am

on the ripper after ice, I think you can bomb jump onto the pillar on the right, then use a bomb over to the top of the left pillar.

transience

2005-03-19 06:44:18 am

twenty eight fifty

I played with that, but the ceiling got in the way. it might be possible with a real nice HBJ, I'm not sure.

gleepdiddly

2005-03-19 06:47:55 am

Oh, I need to learn the layout of the room. :( I think you would need to start a double bomb jump right as the ripper goes by where you're morphing. If this dosen't work,tell me.

Zeke

2005-03-19 07:07:36 am

Time bomb set get out fast!

He's not standing, that's the whole point. :)

Quote from transience:

(I'm not even sure if I can get wave; same for screw attack.)

Screw Attack is definitely impossible. The intended way requires using the Speed Booster, and the quick way requires using missiles.

Skreemaster

2005-03-19 07:49:14 am

I'll be back. Maybe...

I thought the intended way was to beat Ridley, then go through the place unlocked and go all the way through the massive tube, bomb the end and use the morph ball launcher. No Speed Booster required.

gleepdiddly

2005-03-19 08:11:29 am

Those are speed booster blocks.

Supuh

2005-03-19 08:23:27 am

im uploading hy 2-6th secments, this could take forever, but as for the thing, there are 2 other launchers you can use. unfortunetly,you need to shoot two missles to use them, so its either 2 missles or speed booster ;(

*edit i think i broke freewebtown.com when i tried to upload the files, my or anyone who used its sigs arent working.

*edit to the *edit: its fixed

Zeke

2005-03-19 01:56:08 pm

Time bomb set get out fast!

Yep, those are Speed Booster blocks -- you learn that in your first Ridley-before-Kraid run. And hey, wait a minute. Why does transience care about Screw Attack or Wave Beam? When will he get to use them?

transience

2005-03-19 03:48:21 pm

twenty eight fifty

I don't care - it's more about "how many items can I get?" there are so many stupid items that I can't get because missiles are blocking them or whatever. the super missile in Ridley is the best example. I'm gonna have about one super missile for the whole game.

there's nothing more fun than bomb jumping the escape from Tourian. I can't even imagine doing the ending escape.

Skreemaster

2005-03-19 05:51:54 pm

I'll be back. Maybe...

That's because there are BOOST BLOCKS in the way.

gleepdiddly

2005-03-19 06:44:51 pm

AJ, trancience just reminded me, can we jump up the escape shaft after mother brain, because I HATE bomb jumping up that shaft.

Yoshi348

2005-03-19 06:52:30 pm

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Ready and willing.

Pfft. The whole point is not to unmorph until absoultely nessecary.

Supuh

2005-03-19 08:39:23 pm

yeah, we already have 1 exception, and thats for unkown item one. unfortunetly, ridly before kraid is ruled out because you need missles for that, and you need speed booster to go the other way....

Ekarderif

2005-03-20 02:53:09 am

Can't use speed booster for a morph ball only run. Why would you anyways?

transience

2005-03-20 03:25:41 am

twenty eight fifty

basically, if it's possible to do it in ball, you should do it in ball. if you can't get a missile tank because it's in water/lava, or missile blocks are guarding it, you can't get it. that makes sense to me. besides, bomb jumping the Tourian escape is a ball. (no pun intended)

I'm currently stuck in chozodia - I have no idea how to get up the huge vertical shaft that you usually spark all the way to the top, directly right of the tube you can power bomb. the space pirates won't chase me and their beams mess me up. has anyone else done this without unmorphing? I've gotten past a couple of them, but trying to kill them runs me out of life.

edit: okay, I got past that room (a stroke of pure luck) but the room with the super metroid dudes who shoot beams at you? that's just difficult. it seems you can get by every room taking a few hits, but I don't know how you could possibly get all the way to the last save point without dying. has this been done?

Skreemaster

2005-03-20 07:43:27 am

I'll be back. Maybe...

How do you kill Brain in ball form?

gleepdiddly

2005-03-20 08:07:11 am

You don't. There's no way to. Just unmorph during the fight and remorph when the escape starts.

Zeke

2005-03-20 09:57:13 am

Time bomb set get out fast!

Which is not to say that the morph ball isn't useful in that fight, of course.

I look forward to hearing how transience manages the long room with the two Black Pirates. :)