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but that's not the way to do it, that would be stupid. If you're gonna segment the run then you should go all out and optimize the entire thing, not just the beginning. The Frigate is not special.
red chamber dream
t3 the point is that the ship save is free, and afaik none of the other save stations are. that's why you would want to do 2 segments vs 10 segments
red chamber dream
parax isn't the point that segmenting doesn't save time anymore? i thought that's why everyone does ss runs now
they aren't free, but the time you save by being able to redo segments and optimize the run better is more than the time it costs to go to the save station.

And no, people doing ss runs has nothing to do with segmented runs not being fast. Miles's old segmented run from way back was shooting for 0:52 ish which is a good two minutes faster than t3's SS record. Who knows if that target time would be even lower if he picked it back up now with new strats.
If you wanna see a run that doesn't waste any time going to save stations.. well, you should wait for itsPersonnal's TAS, lol.
The reason very few people do segmented is because of the patience required to make them.
red chamber dream
dang ok i thought segmenting just wasn't worth it anymore. someone should do a segmented run, i want to see that time lowered!
we all gotta harass Miles every second of the day to tell him to start his segmented run again until he caves and does it!
I agree with this plan.
red chamber dream
i just want to see sub :50 ;(
Set up a bot in his chat. Like "Kirby, go practice Vault Dash" but instead "Miles, go work on your segmented run"
That would be banned pretty quickly.
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People want to watch the whole thing. People seriously watch streamers reset over not getting good stats in pokemon for hours.


Sad thing about this is, I'm sure tons of people would watch this if it had the title of "single segment attempts" yet if someone streamed segment 1 of pokemon, nobody would watch and care

really disappointing to see so much hate on segmented runs nowadays but blargh
red chamber dream
that's true, but you don't need an audience to produce a speed run ;)
red chamber dream
maybe this is all just weird to me because i would never (ever) watch someone's speed run attempts ... i only care about the final product
Another part of the problem is that segmented requires more patience in some ways. The expectations are higher for a good segment than a good single segment.
People tend to get stuck on segments and be unable to move on.
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
I guess the appeal of watching people stream is when they get a record, you were there, and saw it happen live.
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Hazel: 2015-03-26 12:30:37 pm
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this was an interesting discussion, but I am the only person who thinks it doesn't really belong in this thread? <_<
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Nah, we derailed it good and proper.  My apologies.
We can talk about Other M instead if you'd like.
red chamber dream
ooh a case study into japanese sexism
Or, get this, we can talk about the TAS.
Yeah andy get to it
red chamber dream
no one is stopping anyone from taking about the tas lol