Metroid Prime 2 Echoes TAS

2012-03-17 09:07:17 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

No, I'm no doing one. (not yet at lest)

Umm yeah Mrspeedruns idea might be possible

Only problems:
I can't seem to get two jumps after the unmorph
Its random as fuck whether you get a jump or not

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Aruki

2012-03-17 11:08:22 pm

You jumped and then you did a space jump. Nothing infinite about it.

Hazel

2012-03-18 12:51:41 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Umm no, I did three jumps <_< the only way to get a fast instant morph (that I can find) is to use your second jump and press X two frames after and I got a 3rd jump after the unmorph

MrSpEeDrUn

2012-03-18 04:43:13 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

ahh i see i already got this too but i didnt use a BSJ for it.

Hazel

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Hazel: 2012-03-18 05:12:21 pm

2012-03-18 05:11:58 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

I only used a BSJ because I'm lazy and was testing if the bomb counter refills after unmorphing and morphing again and I used the same DTM to test this

rekameohs

2012-03-19 05:45:53 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

One thing I would really want to see in an Echoes TAS would be skipping the annihilator beam with no dark suit/no energy tanks. That would be a percent drop and I have a feeling that with proper optimization, it could be done.

Hazel

2012-03-19 07:38:01 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Quote from rekameohs:

One thing I would really want to see in an Echoes TAS would be skipping the annihilator beam with no dark suit/no energy tanks. That would be a percent drop and I have a feeling that with proper optimization, it could be done.

SA + TAS = 6%

MrSpEeDrUn

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MrSpEeDrUn: 2012-03-21 12:07:34 pm

2012-03-20 09:16:28 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

well... sa through annaihilator beam could be yeah impossible idk

Edit: of course i mean skipping quadraxis lol

Hazel

2012-03-20 03:39:47 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

no comment

MrSpEeDrUn

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MrSpEeDrUn: 2012-03-21 02:33:10 pm

2012-03-21 02:32:48 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

but yeah that would make it possible i think youre not loosing any energy with SA. well good luck at surviving after you got sanctuary's energy >_>

MilesSMB

2012-03-21 02:44:37 pm

...TASing doesn't magically make standable surfaces appear.

Hazel

2012-03-21 03:41:44 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

its allows you do land on them instead of getting stuck beside them >_>

MilesSMB

2012-03-21 03:43:38 pm

Okay, great, you can land on non-existant standable surfaces with TASing. Awesome!

The issue is finding a standable surface in the first place. Admittedly, that'd be easier with savestates, but TASing isn't going to help at all if there aren't any.

ptorflaxendrosis

2012-03-26 09:17:00 am

If anything, moonjump would help here. Find something to stand on first, then get there without codes...

MrSpEeDrUn

2012-03-31 08:26:11 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

hm maybe you could use the SA short before reaching the ceiling of the room so you could try to land on the door which leads to the temple energy i think so you wont hit any wall.

MrSpEeDrUn

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MrSpEeDrUn: 2012-04-03 11:49:25 am

2012-04-03 11:49:05 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

well i just tried to tas this stupid game for hours but the audio and the video arent sync at all screw this **** qf2gt42g3g3wgewrt

Hazel

2015-05-26 01:35:01 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Quote from MilesSMB:

...TASing doesn't magically make standable surfaces appear.

Quote from itsPersonnal:

its allows you do land on them instead of getting stuck beside them >_>

Quote from MilesSMB:

Okay, great, you can land on non-existant standable surfaces with TASing. Awesome!

The issue is finding a standable surface in the first place. Admittedly, that'd be easier with savestates, but TASing isn't going to help at all if there aren't any.

Looking at posts I made when I was 14 makes me upset, I was a big dumb.

MrSpEeDrUn

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2015-05-26 03:50:44 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

that screw attack at the end of the first part looks interesting
same

Aruki

2015-05-26 09:54:38 am

Wow, really impressive how you were able to spawn all those standable surfaces by TASing.

UchihaSasuke

2015-05-28 03:23:37 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

with Stand Power, anything is possible!

E-Dragon

2016-03-31 10:42:52 am

just a random route improvement idea: You could go to Torvus after returing the Sanctuary Energy, then kill Powerbomb Guardian and get the Torvus key and then maybe find a way to get to Torvus Temple, either by wallcrawling via the Save Station B secret world, so you can get on the door to transition before the room finished loading if that's possible, transition from the bottom, or try grabbing the super missiles or triggering something else than a crash via IS ? Of course that doesn't seem to be fast, but going around via Agon isn't really fast either.
I just wanted to drop this stupid idea here.

Hazel

2016-03-31 02:57:54 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Hazel

2016-04-02 05:33:50 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

To my surprise this video only saves around 8-10 seconds over just going inbounds, there is a fair bit of time to be saved on the SW entry since this was orginally being made to see how much time would be saved using reasonabe non-TAS strats, but after I realized it wasn't really worth doing non-TAS, I screw attacked everywhere but kept the inputs at the start.