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red chamber dream
oh, i've never actually looked at the leaderboards
red chamber dream
only one metroid time matters to me anyway (prime any%)
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skull64 it might probably be a better idea to add the elapsed times to the frigate times as well. for example:

Rank:                            Time:                                        Runner:             
1          4:33.85 remaining (2:26.15 elapsed)                  T3

i think this would look much better, and people not so familiar with the metroid prime frigate escape could understand the frigate escape times better, don't you think so?
I disagree. As far as I can gather, the community has referred to frigate times in the context of time remaining for a LONG time, if not always, and it's honestly pretty easy to figure that out by looking at the leaderboard and watching an associated video or two.
Would an elapsed escape time include the two seconds between gaining control after Parasite Queen and the timer actually starting?
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i'm not so sure. afaik the frigate escape starts at 7:00 but the timer shows up after ~3-4 seconds (i guess at ~6:56/6:57 the timer shows up but i think it's logical to think that it started at 7:00 even though it shows up a little later). so i just calculated 7:00 - 4:33.85 = 2:26.15.
am i wrong?
The timer starts at 7:00, but not until 2 seconds after you gain control, so you really have 7:02 for the escape.
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ok i didn't know this. guess if i timed myself i would have known that it really starts at 7:02. so then the time elapsed would be 7:02-4:33.85 = 2:28.15
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i think the fact that the timer doesn't count the first 2 seconds but the games in-game timer probably still counts it (and it really counts) shows that referring to the remaining timer in the first place would be stupid. i think we should start referring to the calculated elapsed timer in the first place then. player A can still be faster than player B during the first 2 seconds but the remaining timer doesn't count it. that's kinda stupid..
... uh, yes it would? if that happened then player A would be further ahead than player B when the timer starts.
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uhhh...ooops...me silly... youre right. farther away means higher remaining time as well...
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well i guess you're right then, since we can't decide whether to include those 2 seconds to the elapsed time or not it's probably better to stick with the remaining times.
the important thing is that the timer on the screen is consistent, so it's not really a problem.
I have created a new version of the leaderboards which only include SS runs for Any% and 100% and only include NTSC runs for Prime 1. Segmented runs are still tracked for Low%, although categories such as Prime 22% and 23% and Echoes 7% have been removed. Don't worry, the original leaderboards still exist in the same place.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14tDKo45FLNB1Di9rc_DxBMgOHOuiK2VS2EyHCgo3p9M/edit#gid=1317745793

Let me know if anyone would prefer if this new version replaced the old version as the public version of the leaderboards.
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2015-01-27 04:28:58 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2015-01-27 04:03:47 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2015-01-27 04:00:39 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2015-01-27 04:00:25 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2015-01-27 03:52:50 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2015-01-27 03:50:47 am
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
That speedrun rankings point system makes no sence. How the hell does kirby have twice as many points than me lmao.
I could probably beat his 1:27 in 2 weeks and it gives him so many more points than my any% time. (admittelly my any% time is not much better cause fcking spider shafts but still, its harder to beat than kirby's 1:27 i think.)
Also, ranking peoples purely because of their pbs doesnt make sence, people can be much better than others in a game even though their pb is worse. (ive had that discussion in the sm64 community before....)
Also, how is the mp2 wr less worth than the mp1 record, i dont think thats much easier to beat...

And i didnt know miles ran any% in mp3. The mp3 wr also gives way too many points. Why do you rate doing 6/21/17 % i could do each of those. Why the hell does 21% give you 600 points it is not hard to do. Same for 6%. i could finish both in less than 2 days.

Cool that youve added a new split up list though.
Edit: something that would encourage runners to do segmented runs would actually be not splitting the list up, i would like to see more segmented runs honestly, so maybe it is a good idea to keep the old list.
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MilesSMB: 2015-01-27 04:09:46 am
Stop talking about how you could "easily" go do things and go do them.

Also, no, I would not like that to replace the leaderboard. Segmented runs are a large part of Prime's history even if they're not that common these days.
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
Well, considering my pb went from 1:49 to 1:34 within less than 2 weeks with 4 finished runs >_>
I can't wait for your streams over the next 4 days completing both 21% and 6%.
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
*runs
no, the leaderboard has it all wrong. don't you know what mrspeedrun is capable of? he should definitely be ranked #1 for all the things that he COULD do. just wait and see, he'll surprise all of us.

also i'm eagerly awaiting the upcoming arguments over a 100% arbitrary point system.
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2015-01-27 04:56:47 am
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
im just saying how pointless it is to rate runners entirely from their pbs. (was mostly referring to the point ranking thing)
I don't see how you can rate runners any way other than their pbs
I'm looking forward to your 21% and 6% streams.
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kirbymastah: 2015-01-27 09:44:42 am
kirbymastah: 2015-01-27 09:44:18 am
Quote from MrSpEeDrUn:
That speedrun rankings point system makes no sence. How the hell does kirby have twice as many points than me lmao.
I could probably beat his 1:27 in 2 weeks and it gives him so many more points than my any% time. (admittelly my any% time is not much better cause fcking spider shafts but still, its harder to beat than kirby's 1:27 i think.)
Also, ranking peoples purely because of their pbs doesnt make sence, people can be much better than others in a game even though their pb is worse.


Well considering I regularly beat everyone in 100% races that has a slower PB than me, and regularly get beaten by everyone who have faster PBs than me...

I don't think anyone disagrees that the ranking system is generally pretty arbitrary but it's also hard to find some objective manner of ranking it. I recommend not taking it that seriously, the goal of it is to lay out a simple table of what every regular prime series streamer does.
B-B-But my srl leaderboards points.