How good are you at feats of midair morph skill in hacks?

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Gaius_4: 2008-06-24 07:11:32 am

2008-06-24 07:08:32 am

Another place I usually do a wall jump into mid-air morph is when I get the missles in that Green-Brinstar area that leads to Red-Brinstar. ...Yes. In the Original Metroid (again).

In Cliffhanger (from watching the vid) The part where you need to wall-jump and then go into a HBJ to get to a platform.... That (platform) can just be IBJ'd up to from the bottom - Right?

Or should I wait to find out? I mean, if it spoils anything.... then nevermind. :-)

FirePhoenix

2008-06-24 11:05:20 am

Quote from DMantra:

Just a heads up, I'll be looking for a beta tester soon for the easy version.
However I'll need a tester that is, err.. not so good at advanced moves.
The goal is to see if a moderate player can do it.

I'm interested. The extent of my techniques are Speedball, mid-air morph from a walljump, and IBJ. If those are too advanced for your easy testing, then that's fine, I'll pass.

Bolognab

2008-06-24 11:14:32 am

Hmm...release date set dmantra? I'm almost done testing my hack, and I don't want to release it the same day as yours. Very Happy

DonnyDonovan

2008-06-24 11:26:38 am

If you want a mediocre player, I could test. I can't IBJ (at least not with any consistency), I can mock and speedball, but only where I have some room for error, and my grapple beam skills are so-so. I'm not terrible, as I have finished some semi-hard hacks like Limit, Redesign and Golden Dawn, but I gave up on Impossible pretty early on.

Gu3st

2008-06-24 12:48:26 pm

Jagger ftw

you talking about emulator or real, cause in the real one, I can't do more than 4 wall jump in a roll, but in the emulator, I can do it all day long

butterflyboy1974

2008-06-24 04:19:24 pm

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Quote from Gu3st:

you talking about emulator or real, cause in the real one, I can't do more than 4 wall jump in a roll, but in the emulator, I can do it all day long

Thats really strange, maybe its your controller?

Bolognab

2008-06-24 09:14:42 pm

You can't play hacks on "the real" unless you use a flashcart, which I don't think extremely many people are able to do.

butterflyboy1974

2008-06-25 04:14:52 am

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right I as wondering what he uses for controller when he plays using emu, because he should be able to wall jump continuously on either

MoogleEmperor

2008-06-25 10:05:39 am

Walljumping is easier to do consistently with a keyboard, since you have no real risk of accidentally hitting up or down.
I'm not sure about my answer to the topic; I know I can midair morph after a walljump pretty easily (including having to walljump multiple times, and move fairly quickly before a shotblock reforms), but I've never tried it under dangerous conditions.

juicemousezero

2008-06-25 11:13:03 am

I'm completely mediocre at this game... I'd love to play test it, but I wouldn't have enough time to devote to it. :(

Bolognab

2008-06-25 12:01:30 pm

Then you can't playtest it can you?

juicemousezero

2008-06-25 12:44:19 pm

I was saying I'd like to but don't have time. Not complicated.

Gu3st

2008-06-25 04:27:55 pm

Jagger ftw

That is exactly what am talking about.

Its hard to wall jump in with snes/game cube controllers, but its easy as hell with a keyboard.

butterflyboy1974

2008-06-25 05:10:15 pm

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Quote from Gu3st:

That is exactly what am talking about.

Its hard to wall jump in with snes/game cube controllers, but its easy as hell with a keyboard.

I've never even attempted to play with a keyboard. When it cames to game controllers, I think metroid is much better with a Dpad versus a joystick.

MoogleEmperor

2008-06-25 06:08:32 pm

Everything else about the game is quite a bit harder with a keyboard =P it's just walljumping that's easier. With enough practice it's easy with a controller too, you just need to be careful about not press up or down. That's what used to mess me up.

Xaggoth

2008-06-25 06:26:37 pm

Quote from MoogleEmperor:

Everything else about the game is quite a bit harder with a keyboard =P

For some reason I still haven't bought a controller. I actually have to switch to my laptops keyboard (opposed to this comfortable external one) to do any sensitive movement. I do this for mockballs, low-height midair morphs, and hbj. I also have to for crystal flashing, for some reason this keyboard allows for fewer simultaneous presses than required.

DonnyDonovan

2008-06-25 11:13:01 pm

I agree on the walljumping. I play with a keyboard and I'm far better at walljumping than I ever was on console. Mockball I'm less consistent, although I've gotten much better. If you play with a keyboard enough it's not so bad.

playerman1230

2008-06-26 01:27:55 pm

Hated by all

Quote from Xaggoth:

I also have to for crystal flashing, for some reason this keyboard allows for fewer simultaneous presses than required.

I believe macros exist for a reason. =3

Xaggoth

2008-06-26 02:22:53 pm

Quote from playerman1230:

I believe macros exist for a reason. =3

Yeah, so people can be dirty cheaters.... :-D

ducknerd

2008-06-26 07:21:38 pm

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Man, I'm terrible with a controller. The SNES controller just wasn't designed for the player to be within comfortable, IMMEDIATE-immediate reach of three buttons at once. Also, mockball's easier with keyboard IMO, since you don't have to roll your thumb to the right. It's hard to do that fast.

Black Telomeres

2008-06-26 08:07:48 pm

Quote from ducknerd:

Man, I'm terrible with a controller. The SNES controller just wasn't designed for the player to be within comfortable, IMMEDIATE-immediate reach of three buttons at once.

R for Run works fine and I found it pretty easy to adjust to. I had even gotten used to Y B A before that and did fine with it, but using R is probably superior.

butterflyboy1974

2008-06-27 05:12:45 am

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Quote from Black Telomeres:

Man, I'm terrible with a controller. The SNES controller just wasn't designed for the player to be within comfortable, IMMEDIATE-immediate reach of three buttons at once.

The cool thing about the SNES controller for me is that I could turn it upside down and use my fingers on the buttons instead of my thumbs, placing th e bottom of the controller on my palms. I also used to play NES that way.

Quote from ducknerd:

R for Run works fine and I found it pretty easy to adjust to. I had even gotten used to Y B A before that and did fine with it, but using R is probably superior.

I currently use a logitech controller and have RUN set to L1

Shekb

2008-06-29 12:21:11 pm

Quote from ducknerd:

Man, I'm terrible with a controller. The SNES controller just wasn't designed for the player to be within comfortable, IMMEDIATE-immediate reach of three buttons at once. Also, mockball's easier with keyboard IMO, since you don't have to roll your thumb to the right. It's hard to do that fast.

Grow manly hands :P

But seriously, just put your thumb diagonally

Mine can press all 3 buttons at the same time and I have small hands (for a guy)