Hotarubi achieved 50min in-game-time in Single Segment 100%run!!

2008-04-28 01:28:33 pm

coral to complement blue

You've done Prime 22% multiple times, but can't do Super's low%? :P

Will comment on the run after I can watch it later...

MASTER-88

2008-04-28 01:31:37 pm

Speedrunner

Quote from 072:

You've done Prime 22% multiple times, but can't do Super's low%? :P

Bomb jump over water pit before Wrecked ship is too hard for me. Actually i never managed that. I am trying that almost 100 times.

Sneaky Paradox

2008-04-29 11:23:32 am

Prime's 22% is much worse than SM's 14%.

14% runs aren't even that hard, just time consuming boss fights.

ING-X

2008-05-05 05:25:08 pm

yeah

Isn't <14% legit at SDA now that they've allowed OOB?

Sneaky Paradox

2008-05-05 05:59:19 pm

If OOB is allowed, yeah. Have fun pause screen abusing like hell in real-time though.

bushwacker

2008-05-13 07:55:37 pm

hotarubi also put up a single-seg low% run on youtube a few days ago... he got :44 just like in the test run. the man is ridiculous!

MASTER-88

2008-05-23 09:57:28 am

Speedrunner

Quote from LeCoureur103:

hotarubi also put up a single-seg low% run on youtube a few days ago... he got :44 just like in the test run. the man is ridiculous!

I just watch it. This run is probably all around coolest run by Hotarubi. He need insane amount manipulate refill luck in tourian. MB is very scared boss. Ridley as well is hard.

+There is very little amount mistakes.
Actually first 14% TAS was 47 min. Current 34 min. This is almost TAS run and without save very hard category. I don,t really know is Hotarubi human or robot. I belive hotarubi is robot.

Gaius_4

2008-05-23 10:32:59 am

Quote from MASTER-88:

I don,t really know is Hotarubi human or robot. I belive hotarubi is robot.

Hotarubi is Hotarubi. 8-)

laugh new

Racer J

2008-05-28 09:55:06 am

I can't imagine trying to pull off the walljump past the rippers to get the powerbombs earlier, not in a speed run anyways. I did it like 10 years ago just playing around because I realized it was possible, but it probably took me a half hour or so... and he just does it like it's no big deal.

this run is amazing grin new

Sup4rL3g1t

2008-06-11 02:04:27 pm

Im watching this right now and my mind has seriously been blown!!! I had no idea that 50min 100% was possible!

BlueGlass

2008-06-14 06:26:47 pm

Figures. I go away for a few months alnd look what happens. Amazing work, Hotarubi.

The moving of Crocomire to after LN was a great idea, and the CF during the giant metroid scene was genius.

I haven't watched the low% run yet, but I wanted to comment on the 100% right away.

Catnap222, my route differs from Hotarubi's in that I do blue Brinstar/Crateria items after Kraid on the way to Wrecked Ship, including the PBs off the landing site.

From there, I'd suggest the same route hotarubi used until after Norfair, where he should try, instead of going partway up the red Brinstar shaft and cutting into green Brinstar there, going all the way up the shaft, grabbing the PBs in the giant sidehopper room, then going into Crateria through the red Brinstar entrance, wrapping a plasma/wave beam shot around the landing site to open the door to the Gauntlet, then doing a short charge on the ledge across from the Gauntlet entrance and sparking through the first room of the Gauntlet.

I'd greatly appreciate it if you could let Hotarubi know about my route in case it proves to be faster. If you need smvs or more detailed descriptions of anything, let me know.

Figures.  I go away for a few months alnd look what happens.  Amazing work, Hotarubi.

The moving of Crocomire to after LN was a great idea, and the CF during the giant metroid scene was genius.

I haven't watched the low% run yet, but I wanted to comment on the 100% right away.

Catnap222, my route differs from Hotarubi's in that I do blue Brinstar/Crateria items after Kraid on the way to Wrecked Ship, including the PBs off the landing site.

From there, I'd suggest the same route hotarubi used until after Norfair, where he should try, instead of going partway up the red Brinstar shaft and cutting into green Brinstar there, going all the way up the shaft, grabbing the PBs in the giant sidehopper room, then going into Crateria through the red Brinstar entrance, wrapping a plasma/wave beam shot around the landing site to open the door to the Gauntlet, then doing a short charge on the ledge across from the Gauntlet entrance and sparking through the first room of the Gauntlet.

I'd greatly appreciate it if you could let Hotarubi know about my route in case it proves to be faster.  If you need smvs or more detailed descriptions of anything, let me know.

Tyjet66

2008-06-18 05:23:37 pm

What'd you say?

i noticed a few things he should've changed...
1.gotten reserve tank and 2 missles before the first super missle tank
2.skip bomb chozo mini-boss (thats skippable on SNES right?)

other than that, great run! good luck on 00:49

Cpadolf

2008-06-18 06:01:44 pm

Almost happy

Skipping the bomb torizo is not possible on console, it's a TAS only trick.

And taking the R-tank before the super would not have been faster the way he did it. (because of the missile he takes on the way out) However it is faster (ingame) and easier to pick up the missile under the bridge first, exit then re-ener grab the R-tank and the missiles and exit via the super missile path.

MASTER-88

2008-06-18 07:39:02 pm

Speedrunner

Quote from Cpadolf:

Skipping the bomb torizo is not possible on console, it's a TAS only trick.

Expect it is possible skip Torizo on console european PAL-versio only.

It is still so hard and rare. I never maded that. Couple times Samus go in door and game stuck off. Only way get out was push reset button.

Tyjet66

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Tyjet66: 2008-06-19 02:33:34 pm

2008-06-19 01:31:33 am

What'd you say?

Quote from Smokey:

bulleta's right. No one has 'what it takes' to even reach :50/100%. Even if something huge is discovered to get that time the emu vids will take it further. And yes, the only way to compete with that is to play the same way they do, and still, there's no fun/point in doing that. Why competing for something when it doesn't take skill to do?

I also agree with chuck in another view. Legit vids (whether they're done on the cart or emu) and re-recorded videos (using slowdown /states) are two completely different things. There's a :34 cheated vid up, and I simply don't give a damn about it anymore but at the same time I just don't feel like doing another one knowing that I'll never be able to even break that. Still though, I bet none of them can even reach a 1:00 or a :40, and if they do it still doesn't matter to me.

I am sorry for being so unsupportive, but it is just the truth. Take in mind also what it feels like to hit the stop/record button of the VCR countless of times for hours to have something good at the end to then be broken in just a short period of time by someone. It throws away the motivation to continue doing this.

taken off of a thread the Red Scarlet posted
http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php/topic,1084.0.html

kinda ironic dont ya think?

[quote="Smokey"]
bulleta's right. No one has 'what it takes' to even reach :50/100%. Even if something huge is discovered to get that time the emu vids will take it further. And yes, the only way to compete with that is to play the same way they do, and still, there's no fun/point in doing that. Why competing for something when it doesn't take skill to do?

I also agree with chuck in another view. Legit vids (whether they're done on the cart or emu) and re-recorded videos (using slowdown /states) are two completely different things. There's a :34 cheated vid up, and I simply don't give a damn about it anymore but at the same time I just don't feel like doing another one knowing that I'll never be able to even break that. Still though, I bet none of them can even reach a 1:00 or a :40, and if they do it still doesn't matter to me.

I am sorry for being so unsupportive, but it is just the truth. Take in mind also what it feels like to hit the stop/record button of the VCR countless of times for hours to have something good at the end to then be broken in just a short period of time by someone. It throws away the motivation to continue doing this.
[/quote]

taken off of a thread the Red Scarlet posted 
http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php/topic,1084.0.html

kinda ironic dont ya think?

072

2008-06-19 02:39:22 pm

coral to complement blue

That was nearly four years ago...

Cpadolf

2008-06-20 07:06:28 am

Almost happy

I can't believe how much people where bitching about TASers back then... We are not evil damn it!

juicemousezero

2008-06-20 09:27:38 am

Ah, they were just scared and confused. Who can blame them... from reading those posts it seems like the TASers back then were being jackasses about it, too, but I'm only going by those posts so who knows.

072

2008-06-20 01:00:44 pm

coral to complement blue

Quote:

I can't believe how much people where bitching about TASers back then... We are not evil damn it!

There wasn't really a fine line between TASing and Speedrunning at that point, not enough of one for many people to know the difference anyway. And IIRC that 100% TAS was even submitted to SDA as a legit run, which probably didn't help the TASing reputation.

Tyjet66

2008-06-20 01:59:50 pm

What'd you say?

I know if i was red scarlet at that time i'd be mad too. good thing they finaly decided to how lebel TAS runs.