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with recent revelations about video quality achievable with the new ds lite, i thought it would be a good idea to lay down guidelines for how to record video suitable for release on speed demos archive. note that the decision about whether to post video based on its quality will always be made on a case-by-case basis: following these guidelines is no guarantee that your video will be posted. however, failure to follow these guidelines will almost certainly result in rejection.

first and foremost:
you must use a ds lite!
i realize that this will be expensive for virtually everyone, but the ds lite slaughters the old ds in terms of potential picture quality. there is no substitute for a ds lite when recording your run.

1) use a good camera. we're not talking your ten year old digital camera that takes five frames per second and records to a codec available in quicktime 1.0 here. recording should always be done with the camera's highest quality settings (fps, frame size, etc). if possible, record using "ntsc" (not "pal"). as i cannot capture video 8, hi 8 or similar formats, you will have to use dv and copy the file to your computer (pm me for help with that) or (if all else fails) vhs. for these reasons, digital cameras (like the kind you normally would use to take pictures of people) are preferred, the more recent and expensive the better.
2) turn the lights off. you don't want any other lights competing with the ds's screen light (leave that on the brightest setting!) or corrupting its color.
3) make sure both screens are in focus. unfocused (blurry) video will not be accepted.
4) don't move either the camera or the ds. this will interfere with cropping. video with excessive movement will not be accepted.
5) record the audio directly. plug an 1/8" miniplug cable into your ds lite's headphone port and plug the other end into your camera (if possible) or else your computer and record the audio at an acceptable level that way. videos with audio recorded "over the air" will not be accepted.
6) do not attempt to process the video yourself. yank it off the camera and send it in, on cd-r or dvd-r if necessary. videos altered in any way from how the camera made them will not be accepted. this includes attempting to integrate audio recorded separately: audio sync will be handled by sda.

it's probably a good idea to take some test footage so that we can approve your video quality before you record an entire run, only to have it rejected. please refer to the rules, faq and submission guidelines available at sda for additional information.

i apologize for the tg-esque length and strictness of these regulations, but no one wants to watch crappy video. remember that you have earned the right to be showcased to thousands of eager viewers, and your product should be superior in all aspects of production.
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Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Hardass.
hey, for a long time we didn't think this was going to be possible at all. :P
in the name of justice!
Quote from nate:
4) don't move either the camera or the ds. this will interfere with cropping. video with excessive movement will not be accepted.

Physically speaking, this clearly prevents me from doing DS speedruns still...except maybe something where you don't actually have to hold the DS like KCC or AWDS.

Incidentally, if one screen does nothing (like, as far as I know, the top screen in DoS which I haven't gotten to play aside from the little demo) is it still a recording requirement?  I assume yes, but...
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
The top screen doesn't do "nothing" in Dawn of Sorrow - it's actually quite useful. But it does only display subscreen-type stuff, and you could get by just fine without ever seeing it on a run. It never really has any bearing on what's going on in the main screen. Still, for accuracy and consistancy, it should be required to display both screens for all games, says I.
in the name of justice!
Yeah, I meant in terms of speedrunning, though for me the map screen never seemed to be particularly useful in any of the other CV games, much less the stats screen.
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
The stats screen is spectacularily useful when you're soul hunting. Although admitedly, they could have just put it in the pause menu, and it's really just up there on the second screen because it can be. But it's certianly more convenient being up there than it would be on the pause menu.
why does using both screens require you to move the ds? sure, it's uncomfortable, but in the absence of any better solution, you can always just attach the camera to the ds so that they both move at the same time. and yeah, we can talk about only recording one screen when we actually get hunters (i'm getting it tomorrow around noon hopefully) and we determine whether both screens are necessary.
in the name of justice!
No, the two parts of my post are unrelated.  I'm saying that my twitchiness is probably going to make not moving the DS really hard unless it's something where it'll just sit on the table and I play with the stylus only.
Quote from nate:
first and foremost:
you must use a ds lite!


Well, there goes any chance of getting a speed run from me, as I am quite happy with my normal DS and don't plan on ever getting a Lite. (Not that I was going to make any speed runs in the first place though.)

Hopefully, this fact won't stop the rest of you from recording Hunters speed runs. Wink
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
I still say both screens should be required to be shown no matter what. I dunno... it's just like recording half of the tv screen. Even if there's nothing importiant going on on the other half, it's still a part of it.
red chamber dream
Quote from Toozin:
I still say both screens should be required to be shown no matter what. I dunno... it's just like recording half of the tv screen. Even if there's nothing importiant going on on the other half, it's still a part of it.

I agree. And, emphasising what nate said, I think everyone should try and actually attach a camera TO the DS. Would make every video a lot smoother and more watchable.
everybody knows it's true
Carlmmii's videos not good enough quality?
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Ready and willing.
Given the first link in the post... I think he thinks they are.
everybody knows it's true
Quote from Yoshi348:
Given the first link in the post... I think he thinks they are.
If that's the case then people won't need a DS lite.
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Ready and willing.
I was under the impression that that was the DS lite. I couldn't be bothered to get standalone Quicktime working again, or to figure out what else to open the .mov with, since it wasn't THAT important... *shrug*
l'appel du vide
Am I the only one who isn't particularly interested in DS speed runs?

And...uh...Nate?  Carl was using a DS Regular...
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Ready and willing.
It's Metroid speed runs, foo. Of course it will be of particular interest.
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
seems that DS speed running will be quite hard and expensive.. :p

i'll stick with good ol' N64 and FZX :p
lol. go mistake of the year. well, i guess anything posted on sda will be of really good quality, then. :P
woot. :P

How would one go about attaching a camera to a DS?
http://www.metroid2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=132250#132250
Maybe someone should email a website like IGN or Gamespot and ask how they record their videos? Maybe you'll get a response...
IGN, Gamespot, and just about any other big-name review site have their own DS Capture unit, which is not for public use.
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the code in carlmmii's sig will not work.
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