Got it?

2006-03-21 08:02:20 pm

Quote from PiccoloCube:

what items do you collect in single player?

is there a story or anything or can you scan stuff like in the prime games?

yes to all the above

arkarian

2006-03-21 08:07:22 pm

red chamber dream

Um, you only collect Artifacts in Single-Player mode? That can't be true, as nate already said he got at least one Energy Tank.

99v6cam

2006-03-21 08:13:56 pm

No you collect more than artifacts

13M13

2006-03-21 08:29:24 pm

l'appel du vide

Quote from Ark:

Nate(and everyone else), definitely keep us up to date on how the Single Player mode is (and how long it is, etc.). It will pretty much be the deciding factor in whether I buy the game or not.

From what opinions of the game I have heard, if your motivation for buying the game is something other than portable multiplayer fragfests, you may be...underwhelmed. Quake done Metroid.

Dunno if that's accurate, though. I haven't "borrowed" the game from anyone yet.

arkarian

2006-03-21 08:34:36 pm

red chamber dream

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. Multiplayer anything sucks. Not just in video games, either.

nate

2006-03-21 08:46:45 pm

love how people are spewing hearsay when there are people who have the game who are posting in this topic.

arkarian

2006-03-21 08:52:42 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from nate:

love how people are spewing hearsay when there are people who have the game who are posting in this topic.

Especially when it makes no logical sense. >_>

SAL

2006-03-21 09:20:29 pm

I just got the game and was doing fine untill

weval came and kicked my ass after beating the eye ball thing. : /

I have a question....I though you get the hunters weaponds after beating them :(

Tahngarthor

2006-03-21 09:26:25 pm

Bangaa Bishop

Nope, you find the weapons in the areas as pickups just like in other metroid games. I just got the Judicator after doing a really frustrating morph ball puzzle.

13M13

2006-03-21 09:49:56 pm

l'appel du vide

Quote from Nate:

love how people are spewing hearsay when there are people who have the game who are posting in this topic.

Well, if that was directed towards me, my comments above were derived from various opinions of peoples. And yes, they own the game. I've been pretty "meh" about Hunters, though, so I've yet to actively pursue the acquisition of a friend of mine's beloved DS.

But this is what I hear: "Cool...DS wi-fi fragfests. Single-player? Yeah, it's decent. But online is where it's at."

*shrugs*

Yoshi348

2006-03-21 09:51:44 pm

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Ready and willing.

Wheee, I have it and stuff. Haven't played multiplayer because my replacement dongle isn't here yet, plus I'd get flickerbatting owned anyway.

Controls are weirding me out because I've never really PLAYED played a keyboard and mouse FPS. Closest thing is Goldeneye.

Level 1 was pretty dang linear. Going by the manual plus my experience, major items are limited to weapons and expansions. Lots of "key hunting" like in Echoes, but with much less "hunting". Actually, so far the keys seem pointless because the doors lock until you reveal them anyway.

What Nate said is spot on... I ALMOST died on the first level's boss but it decided to cough up several energies on me. It doesn't usually do that. (Heh, was pretty funny tractoring the energy while desperatly not trying to get hit...)

As far as in game story, it's pretty much exactly as in Prime, except occasionally you get little alerts from your ship (mostly along the lines of "some bounty hunter dork landed here, be careful!"). Scan visor is here and works the same as in Prime. A major bother for me is that the major cutscenes (don't worry, about exactly as in Prime, by cutscenes I just mean the whole "OMG ITS A BOSS" thing... think when you meet Thardus or kill OP or something) are prerendered using graphics like a jillion times better than the actual game. I don't like it when "in-line" cutscenes are graphically different from normal ones.

As far as how wi-fi goes... according to the manual, everbody having everyone's friend codes is basically going to be almost the same as having a m2k2 server, except that friends of friends will be getting in too. "Random" games are only normal battle mode... however you can add those players as "rivals" after the game. The only differences between rivals and friends are that a) you can choose to play against just rivals or just friends instead of both and b) only friends are allowed to chat/voice chat with you. So no need to worry about random jerks cussing you out. Friend And Rival games, as far as the manual says, are exactly like local wireless play except you can't have bots. That does mean the game is limited to 4 players... I'm not sure the DS can handle much more anyway.

Wheee, I have it and stuff. Haven't played multiplayer because my replacement dongle isn't here yet, plus I'd get flickerbatting owned anyway.

Controls are weirding me out because I've never really PLAYED played a keyboard and mouse FPS. Closest thing is Goldeneye.

Level 1 was pretty dang linear. Going by the manual plus my experience, major items are limited to weapons and expansions. Lots of "key hunting" like in Echoes, but with much less "hunting". Actually, so far the keys seem pointless because the doors lock until you reveal them anyway.

What Nate said is spot on... I ALMOST died on the first level's boss but it decided to cough up several energies on me. It doesn't usually do that. (Heh, was pretty funny tractoring the energy while desperatly not trying to get hit...)

As far as in game story, it's pretty much exactly as in Prime, except occasionally you get little alerts from your ship (mostly along the lines of "some bounty hunter dork landed here, be careful!"). Scan visor is here and works the same as in Prime. A major bother for me is that the major cutscenes (don't worry, about exactly as in Prime, by cutscenes I just mean the whole "OMG ITS A BOSS" thing... think when you meet Thardus or kill OP or something) are prerendered using graphics like a jillion times better than the actual game. I don't like it when "in-line" cutscenes are graphically different from normal ones.

As far as how wi-fi goes... according to the manual, everbody having everyone's friend codes is basically going to be almost the same as having a m2k2 server, except that friends of friends will be getting in too. "Random" games are only normal battle mode... however you can add those players as "rivals" after the game. The only differences between rivals and friends are that a) you can choose to play against just rivals or just friends instead of both and b) only friends are allowed to chat/voice chat with you. So no need to worry about random jerks cussing you out. Friend And Rival games, as far as the manual says, are exactly like local wireless play except you can't have bots. That does mean the game is limited to 4 players... I'm not sure the DS can handle much more anyway.

nate

2006-03-21 09:56:09 pm

Quote from SamusAranLuver:

I just got the game and was doing fine untill weval came and kicked my ass after beating the eye ball thing. : /

yeah, i almost died to him just now, but super missiled his face and he was like lol nm.

btw, is there any point in marking spoilers? seems pretty obvious there are going to be spoilers in this forum ...

Yoshi348

2006-03-21 10:01:42 pm

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Ready and willing.

Be nice to have late game spoilers marked, as opposed to early game spoilers.

Syl

2006-03-21 10:02:17 pm

I got it, enjoying it thoroughly.

I have 4 planets unlocked, i'm mostly through the first 3, I took a sidetrip to the 4th one, then ran the hell back. (after unlocking a new hunter and grabbing a new energy tank)

It's far more action based than any previous metroid game, but thats fine by me. The multiplayer (I've only played against bots) has been excellent, despite the massive "getting my ass kicked by level 2 bots", it was extremely fun.

I'm planning on getting much more of it done tonight, but the controls tend to cramp up my hands - my fault i suppose, i'll figure out a way to hold it eventually.

Still, good stuff. Damn impressive too.

Yoshi348

2006-03-21 10:09:44 pm

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Ready and willing.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the boost ball needs more visual feedback that you're actually boosting. It doesn't really seem to be doing anything unless you pay close attention to your speed.

And yeah, the map sucks. How does it suck when it's the same as in Prime/Echoes? Is it the no zoom?

Tahngarthor

2006-03-21 10:14:36 pm

Bangaa Bishop

You can zoom. Use the L + R buttons. use the stylus to rotate, the control pad to scroll. I think the map is fine. It's a little harder to read with the DS' lower color depth and such, but its just like the Prime 1+2 maps and personally I like it. I dont know why ppl think it starts. The worst thing about it is having to press the start button to view it when you're using stylus mode.

I cant wait for u guys to set up a Hunters section on the site. the structure of the game is going to severely limit sequence breaking, but I'm sure there will be some good content, tips and tricks to post. especially for multiplayer. (the multiplayer advice for echoes ought to be posted in the MP2 section.)

13M13

2006-03-21 10:17:28 pm

l'appel du vide

Alright, I've played it for a few minutes. Fun stuff. Haha, and I wasn't expecting "Headshot!" to appear in single-player...

Yoshi348

2006-03-21 10:27:57 pm

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Ready and willing.

Neither would I.

BTW, I'm on the middle of level two now, and while the game is linear, there's also a lot of rooms I'm seeing guarded by special weapon doors. Still don't have a single one, although I've faced two hunters. I'm wondering if you just backtrack to those doors for expansions.

SAL

2006-03-21 10:29:25 pm

i'm just wondering... i just went to the landed on the thrid planet...i'm wondering if i missed any beams...

Tahngarthor

2006-03-21 10:34:26 pm

Bangaa Bishop

The Judicator is on the ice planet (one of the two unlocked after the third level.) You have to go through a really annoying morph ball puzzle to get it. (Opens purple doors, shoots supercooled plasma)

PhazonInjected

2006-03-21 10:35:59 pm

Yeah, it seems to be lacking a few things. one of the biggest bummers of it all is that the game is so new, and so different from other Metroid games that the common metroid sense isnt always valuable..and nobody out there knows every secret yet, so we're all kind of lost in this confusion together. Its actually kind of neat, like we were all thrown into this world at once and have to figure it out on our own..surprise

SAL

2006-03-21 10:43:09 pm

I had some dislikes that i wanted to point out but i forgot from having too much fun....hehe..

where do you use the mic and how?

Tahngarthor

2006-03-21 10:55:07 pm

Bangaa Bishop

Chat can only be used with people on your friends roster (and not rivals roster). Nintendo feels like it needs to "protect" everyone online so they dont want you to chat with people you "dont know". Anyway. You can use voice chat and text chat in the pre-game and post-game lobby screens when you are playing in Friends + Rivals mode (but chatting and talking only works between friends, and not rivals). An icon will appear on the screen in these places to indicate when it's possible. When Voice chat is available, push the X button to activate the mic and start talking. (text messaging is available too).

Hejira

2006-03-22 12:41:50 am

Fall damage? I suck when fall damage comes into play. Seriously, I'll get this game and earn the nickname 'Splat Aran'. Do you know how much fear has been struck to my heart with this new development?

...but I'm still going to get it. Something to do with loyalty and curiosity and stuff.

Yoshi348

2006-03-22 01:36:00 am

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Ready and willing.

There aren't too many places where you can actually fall far enough to take fall damage.