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red chamber dream
anyone who gets offended when someone says "rape" in any situation is an utter fucking moron
red chamber dream
if you have to be offended (and clearly a lot of women do), get offended by people's actions, not their words
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from arkarian:
anyone who gets offended when someone says "rape" in any situation is an utter fucking moron

You're not wrong.
Club 27 Goals
wow this Battlefield 3 "Premium" thing is such bullshit. What's that? You already paid $60 for the game? Okay pay another $50 and you'll get double EXP, exclusive items, and tons of exclusive maps and vehicles and shit! yeah!

Going to have to steal a few copies of BF3 next time I'm at the mall, that'll show em.
red chamber dream
lol this chick is awesome
red chamber dream
poision didn't call of duty do the same exact thing a year ago? they're just trying to get a slice of that pie too, clearly people (ie retards) are willing to pay it
red chamber dream
wait wait wait ... a scandinavian chick that's not incredibly sexy? blasphemous
red chamber dream
oh russian, my b
Almost happy
Phew, almost got worried that our horrible secret had been let out.
red chamber dream
yeah, you fucking beautiful bastards
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from arkarian:
it's not that i like rape, it's just i don't see why it can't be portrayed in fiction

Wasn't saying you did, but what I am trying to say and sort of fucking up, is that if you're going to put things like that in a work you have to understand what makes it effective, what it means, what it's actually portraying, and what purpose it has in this situation. It's not the kind of thing you just throw around to show that "These guys is bad!" not the kind of thing you want to undermine accidentally cause you can't make a guy scary and bad without using gender as a crutch. Similarly having a women totally beat a creepy raper guy up isn't really empowering or anything if you keep putting her in situations where she has to do it. It can be complicated stuff and very few developers can really handle it. Cause they are lazy nerd shits.
red chamber dream
i agree with you on all points then. i guess i just don't see how using sexual assault in far cry 3 is somehow inappropriate. if the guys are supposed to be evil, abusive men living in an evil, abusive community on this fucked up evil, abusive anarchy island ... shouldn't we be seeing that? it sounds to me like you're just dismissing it automatically because it shows sexual assault.
red chamber dream
i mean there's lots of places in the Real World that are actually like that, i don't think it's somehow incredibly far-fetched to be portraying that in a game
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Just seems lazy is all. Like hey these guys are bad as evidenced by that one guy we saw.
red chamber dream
also don't think it's necessary to explain why bad guys are bad. showing them doing bad things is enough to make me feel they're bad.

what i do think we'd both agree on is that it's kind of stupid when developers linger the camera on the woman's tits or something. still, i don't really have a problem with it. i just think it's dumb and lazy.
Almost happy
Wait what am I watching?
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from arkarian:
also don't think it's necessary to explain why bad guys are bad.

It's not, that's kind of the thing. The demo was playign as the protagonist, those guys are bad by definition, so why bother?
One shall stand, one shall ball.
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Wait what am I watching?

My personal nightmare!
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from arkarian:
i just think it's dumb and lazy.

That sort of is why I have problem with it. :v
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arkarian: 2012-06-04 07:11:30 pm
red chamber dream
ok yeah i see what you're saying now. guess it just doesn't bother me much. i do agree it can be handled better though, and in some games it is. naughty dog looks like they're going to do a good job with the last of us in giving us a young female protagonist and making us care about her rather than viewing her a sex object (it also helps that she's like, twelve). really excited for that game.
red chamber dream
one way to look at it i guess is that if you see the bad guys are sexually abusive, you'll hate them more. in that case it's up to the developers to convince us to do that, and if they can, i think that's great. just because 14 year old boys might get off on it doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the game. 14 year old boys will get off on anything.
red chamber dream
walking around: the game
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<j-snake> i,m uninpressed by farcry 3's rudimentary ai-system.
Hey, I didn't say anything bad about Far Cry 3 yet. It seems like the boys do follow a respectable vision and pulling it confidently through. That sure gets my respect. I have to say though that I haven't seen any A.I. yet that comes even close to the original Far Cry. I am an extremely technical guy, I know what I am talking about here. So much at how games do "evolve".
Almost happy
And then it as just a regular third person shooter after all1
red chamber dream
i was just poking some fun, j-snake :P