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Indie Lover
why there is so much civilization and Total war clones?

i can't find a single "normal" strategy game to play!
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Define "normal strategy game".
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Warcraft 2 is all you need.
Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds.
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kesvalk: 2012-01-24 11:04:12 am
Indie Lover
i already played these, i want something new...

Quote from tomatobob:
Define "normal strategy game".


age2
rise of nations
warhammer 40k dawn of war
starcraft
empire earth
company of heroes
warcraft3
galactic battlegrounds
supreme commander
command and conquer
Dune2
Dungeon Keeper 2

this is what i remember right now

y'know? real-time, resource and unit management, non-rush based if possible...

i will really need to go back to supreme commander 2!?

games like star wars: battlegrounds kinda fit into my needs too
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Settler 2 Gold: Anniversary Edition.  Oh, yeah.

And...
Quote from Quietus:
Warcraft 2 is all you need.
Indie Lover
the unit selection limit of war2 is too limiting for me...

and i already wasted years of my life playing it... i want something new.
same with settlers 2...
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Unit selection limit?  Hehe, you just select your units, tell them to follow a unit, then put the unit they're following another selection, and tell it to follow another unit, etc. Cool

I know what you mean, though, as I've played them to death too.  I recently played through Syndicate again, and it's always a cool play, if you want something a little different.
Indie Lover
wow syndicate...

there is any way to see inside buildings? whenever i play syndicate i get angry trying to blindly walk through buildings...
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Not that I'm aware of, but I don't recall having to go into THAT many.
red chamber dream
try stronghold. great game.
Indie Lover
isn't stronghold a total war clone?
red chamber dream
the first one is nothing like total war. haven't played the others.
One shall stand, one shall ball.
One RTS is exactly the same as any other so I really don't know what you're hoping for here.
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kesvalk: 2012-01-24 06:52:04 pm
Indie Lover
oh tbob, you so funny!

http://myfacewhen.com/65/
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kesvalk: 2012-01-24 09:35:34 pm
Indie Lover
also, have you guys seen that game?


/)*3*(\

i just hope it isn't a MMO.
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
If it's not an MMO, then it could be of interest.
Indie Lover
exactly.
Club 27 Goals
What would be the difference?

it's funny because WoW is way less grindy than the Final Fantasies, and it has way more story too. The above looks like it would be very boring if it was just single player.
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Some people just prefer single player gaming.
Club 27 Goals
well that's silly.
Almost happy
Quote from kesvalk:
age2
rise of nations
warhammer 40k dawn of war
starcraft
empire earth
company of heroes
warcraft3
galactic battlegrounds
supreme commander
command and conquer
Dune2
Dungeon Keeper 2

this is what i remember right now

y'know? real-time, resource and unit management, non-rush based if possible...

i will really need to go back to supreme commander 2!?

games like star wars: battlegrounds kinda fit into my needs too


Starcraft 2? IMO, it's the best RTS of that type (resource collecting/base building/army controlling) that has been released in several years. It might fail on the "non rush based" part through, depending on your definition of that. A rush is always a possibility in SC2, but if you play safely you can generally defend yourself and turn it into a longer game. I prefer it like that tbh, if early rushes were not viable the first 10 minutes of a game would just be dull and boring instead. This way you're kept on your toes.
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kesvalk: 2012-01-25 12:12:09 pm
kesvalk: 2012-01-25 12:09:53 pm
Indie Lover
this is why i don't play starcraft 2
http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/505

also, i don't buy blizzard games anymore...
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What would be the difference?

it's funny because WoW is way less grindy than the Final Fantasies, and it has way more story too. The above looks like it would be very boring if it was just single player.


no one said we don't want it to be multi-player, we don't want it to be a MMO, imagine the chaos it would be in a voxel based MMO... 5 seconds with the server online the world would be transformed into a flatland with lots of PKs all around...

i still want it to be multiplayer, but i prefer to play it with 4 or 5 friends than with lot's of annoying random ppl.

PS: WoW is prolly the ONLY MMO that have any story that is not completely negligible.
I'd like to argue that SWTOR fits that description. Story's pretty important there, seeing as its the main focus of the game's design.
Indie Lover
dunno, only saw gameplay videos of SWTOR, didn't liked it and forgot the game even existed...