general gaming topic

2012-08-02 06:18:20 pm

red chamber dream

heh i soaked over 100 hours into that shit and don't regret it all. might have helped that it was my first elder scrolls game and i wasn't working at the time though so i could easily play for 6 hours a day. ;)

Poision Envy

2012-08-02 06:48:48 pm

Club 27 Goals

Quote from Tyjet66:

After the honeymoon effect and the alcohol wore off, it's just been collecting dust.

This describes it pretty much perfectly for me.

What really killed it for me was having no feeling of exploration since the landscapes and towns were pretty much exactly the same. And it never really felt like you were making a character, since you could just level everything and it didn't matter. I liked starting a new character in Oblivion after playing ~70 hours as a dickass thief, and then suddenly being a hardass warrior paladin of righteousness.

Quote from arkarian:

it's supposedly a lot of content

Looking at the steam store page, the only part that adds new content is being able to buy two more homes, and becoming a "lord of the vampires". The other stuff like more weapons and cosmetic stuff can hardly be considered more content. Having your own upgrade tree for being a werewolf is cool, but eh.

tomatobob

2012-08-02 07:33:05 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Poision Envy:

And it never really felt like you were making a character, since you could just level everything and it didn't matter.

Couldn't you just... not level everything? I mean it doesn't force you or anything right?

arkarian

2012-08-02 07:50:05 pm

red chamber dream

the lord of the vampires thing is its own collection of quests, like the thieves guild or mage guild ... that's the main part of the expansion lol

and yeah heh i played for 100 hours and didn't level nearly everything up. the skill progression in that game is pretty good if you ask me. and i loved exploring skyrim ... it does kind of all look the same, but that didn't really matter to me i guess. frozen snowy worlds are p. cool.

Poision Envy

2012-08-02 08:34:20 pm

Club 27 Goals

Quote from tomatobob:

Couldn't you just... not level everything? I mean it doesn't force you or anything right?

eh, for the most part. You could just not spend the skill points you get since it's been babbyied.

The dungeons were extremely disappointing as well. The extent of the puzzles were "look at the wall behind you to figure out which order to turn the stones" or just "run through with the right timing". The dungeons never seemed to fork off or have lots of rooms, 90% of the time it was just just straight hallways that eventually made a loop, with some big treasure at the end (coins and mats) and a shout, and then a super secret door that opened up right at the entrance.

the dialogue and everything else was nice about skyrim, and even though the snowy mountains were copy-pasted over the entire map, it was still pretty to look at.

arkarian

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arkarian: 2012-08-02 08:40:55 pm

2012-08-02 08:38:42 pm

red chamber dream

i liked that most dungeons were linear and simple, but one thing the game seemed to be lacking were large, complex dungeons. would have been cool to see more zelda-esque stuff in there, but i guess that's just not elder scrolls's thing.

Cpadolf

2012-08-02 08:43:35 pm

Almost happy

With such a big and open game I'd imagine there's simply not enough time to create a lot of big complex dungeons. And you're also limited because of the openness of the design, as you can't make most dungeons dependent on various skills in the way you could with a more linear game. And that's the thing with skyrim overall imo. The world is so big and open and well crafted, but most gameplay elements are pretty primitive and bland.

arkarian

2012-08-02 08:52:45 pm

red chamber dream

i don't think it's all that hard to put more puzzles and whatnot in; you don't necessarily need to base dungeons around abilities. but bethesda did say they were trying to attract the call of duty crowd, so i guess it makes sense why they didn't. i don't mind really, i just think the game would have benefitted from more actual "dungeons" instead of caves.

Cpadolf

2012-08-02 08:55:38 pm

Almost happy

Yeah I would have liked that a lot too. It's still a lot better than Oblivion though to be honest, that game basically defines bland dungeons :P

Tyjet66

2012-08-02 09:18:31 pm

What'd you say?

They were trying to attract the call of duty crowd? Why not just rehash Oblivion, with slightly improved graphics, nearly identical gameplay, but add a few new, minor elements. Oh, don't forget to throw in an incredibly repetitive online versus mode, which could be filled with prepubescent male teens throwing constant obscenities. There, multi-million dollar game.

tomatobob

2012-08-02 09:20:24 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Sweet burn bro.

Poision Envy

2012-08-02 09:25:50 pm

Club 27 Goals

Quote from arkarian:

i liked that most dungeons were linear and simple, but one thing the game seemed to be lacking were large, complex dungeons. would have been cool to see more zelda-esque stuff in there, but i guess that's just not elder scrolls's thing.

Morrowind, or even Oblivion to an extent.

Quote from Cpadolf:

as you can't make most dungeons dependent on various skills in the way you could with a more linear game.

Why not? "Oh, you chose these and these skills so you can't do this half of the dungeon" makes it feel more real and gives different people different experiences. Then just have the reward for that part of the dungeon based on the skills that you need to get in there. Not having a high enough lock-picking did that to a much lesser extent, but yeah.

arkarian

2012-08-02 09:33:55 pm

red chamber dream

yeah and i guess they did that with the mage's college or whatever it was called too

arkarian

2012-08-02 10:12:08 pm

red chamber dream

http://ign.com/articles/2012/08/02/john-carmack-rage-apologies-doom-3-news-and-the-future

john carmack is a class act. find it fascinating how he talks about everything in an almost programmatic manner, or at least a very fact-based one.

Poision Envy

2012-08-02 10:52:31 pm

Club 27 Goals

oh shit

http://pokemmo.eu/

This exists now

arkarian

2012-08-02 11:38:13 pm

red chamber dream

>fangame
>notx

Poision Envy

2012-08-03 01:00:05 am

Club 27 Goals

it just runs firered in java and connects other people. Not built from the ground up or whatever.

arkarian

2012-08-03 01:01:15 am

red chamber dream

meh, still not anything i'm interested in. game freak should make a 3d console pokemon game, i'd play that.

Poision Envy

2012-08-03 01:10:40 am

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Pokemond DX gale of darkness? Pokemon stadium?

Pokemon snap was fun

Prime Hunter

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2012-08-03 04:46:08 am

Having another 3D game like Colosseum or XD but with more of the core game elements such as routes and actual wild Pokemon would be great. It would take forever to play because of the animations during each battles if they didn't speed them up a bit, but it would still be great.

I remember having a lot of fun with Colossem's single player. Never did try XD though. I guess not having a working GBA anymore killed my interest in it since I wouldn't be able to transfer Pokemon off of the console after I was done playing.

arkarian

2012-08-03 06:56:16 am

red chamber dream

i meant a real pokemon game

Super KB

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Super KB: 2012-08-03 07:17:02 am

2012-08-03 07:13:43 am

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I want a new Gradius game but too bad SHUMPS are not popular enough for this to happen even though zun's Touhou series is almost widely known but thats just only in Japan only few people in certain countries know about it...

arkarian

2012-08-03 08:04:04 am

red chamber dream

i know like a billion retards who jizz over touhou and they're all white

Quietus

2012-08-03 08:59:07 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I thought that was there official sales pitch:

"Get TOUHOU now! Jizzed over by a billion retards!"*

*Metaphor. Not to be taken literally. No penises were harmed in the making of this game, though many controllers were. Terms and conditions apply.

Poision Envy

2012-08-03 12:12:32 pm

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Touhou has more porn than MLP and street fighter. The only series that has more porn fan-art is Pokemon.

It's safe to say there's some penis damage somewhere as a result from that game.