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Opium: 2017-03-26 06:30:03 pm

2017-03-26 06:29:42 pm

I'm no expert on the in-game timer. I just thought it paused for door transitions and maybe a couple of other things, so that makes it different than real time. But as long as it affects all players equally then it's still an accurate way to determine who was faster.

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:29:54 pm

red chamber dream

plenty of people still play on console. they just don't use the console's timer

BioSpark

2017-03-26 06:30:35 pm

i think the main thing is that it's so competitive and only knowing the minutes isn't that great

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:31:03 pm

red chamber dream

in the videos he talks about how consoles are the standard for most games, mario 64 especially

Opium

2017-03-26 06:31:07 pm

Then what do they use? A stopwatch? What if they don't start it at the exact same moment as someone else? I say the in-game timer rules.

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:31:24 pm

red chamber dream

they record it and time the video ...

DJGrenola

2017-03-26 06:32:02 pm

heh I remember scarlet used to use an AR code that would display seconds elapsed on the missile counter

Opium

2017-03-26 06:32:06 pm

I'm too lazy for all that

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:32:12 pm

red chamber dream

just like how i timed all my wario runs years ago

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:32:32 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from Opium:

I'm too lazy for all that

then you can't be a speed runner. nothing wrong with that.

Opium

2017-03-26 06:33:58 pm

No, I can't. Not if I have to take a damn college course just to set it up. I want to press the start button and go. I want to concentrate on the tricks.

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:34:38 pm

red chamber dream

then do that and have fun. but the community at large is about streaming and making videos

Serris

2017-03-26 06:36:21 pm

You can't compete with the hours streamers are putting in anyway so it doesn't matter lol

Opium

2017-03-26 06:36:44 pm

I wager that there are players out there who are better than the 'world record' holders but they don't record their times so nobody knows except themselves and their friends.

Serris

2017-03-26 06:37:50 pm

That becomes less likely over time, and the chances today for games that are run by more than two people are basically zero

Opium

2017-03-26 06:37:55 pm

I wonder if the record holder is really the best, or just the best who bothered to prove it.

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:38:01 pm

red chamber dream

right. so they don't actually matter

like if i can't possibly know about such people, why would i care? that doesn't invalidate the community lol

arkarian

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arkarian: 2017-03-26 06:39:57 pm

2017-03-26 06:39:44 pm

red chamber dream

it's like me somehow training to run faster than usain bolt, but doing it all in secrecy

why should anyone care

DJGrenola

2017-03-26 06:41:29 pm

I spent some time thinking about this years ago and I think the chances of secret WRs happening are vanishingly small now, since you'd kind of have to participate in the community in order to be aware of all the timesavers

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:41:43 pm

red chamber dream

and serris is right, at this point you have to be involved or at least lurk in the community to beat records of all but the most obscure games

it's not like 2004 where i watched my friend easily beat the sands of time record without any external help

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:41:56 pm

red chamber dream

lol

DJGrenola

2017-03-26 06:42:59 pm

it was something I emphasised when edge interviewed me about SDA, that runners often get a bit more credit than they deserve since all the tricks they used come from a body of work that involves dozens of people

Serris

2017-03-26 06:43:11 pm

It's pretty hard for one guy to compete with a dozen runners, routers, glitch hunters and tech finders all working together

arkarian

2017-03-26 06:43:47 pm

red chamber dream

plus runners love nothing more than showing off, so anyone who's any good would want to be involved in the community anyway

DJGrenola

2017-03-26 06:44:32 pm

(having said that I bet I hold the bbc micro citadel world record ... can't remember what my time was though lol)