general gaming topic

2017-01-19 08:55:27 pm

red chamber dream

but if you're playing online multiplayer, your switch by definition would already be connected to the internet. there's no excuse for this bizarre and stupid business decision.

Poision Envy

2017-01-20 05:09:17 am

Club 27 Goals

Yeah, no, I'm all for Nintendo doing new and crazy things, but this goes from crazy to just stupid.

Opium

2017-01-21 04:02:00 pm

I've never once communicated with another person while playing a game anyways. That's a private time for me where I do not want to be disturbed. At all.

arkarian

2017-01-21 04:05:30 pm

red chamber dream

same here, but i think our kind is growing few and far between, opium ;(

like everyone i talk to thinks it's weird when i say i don't play games online

arkarian

2017-01-21 04:05:43 pm

red chamber dream

a lot of younger kids don't play any single player games at all

Opium

2017-01-21 04:14:13 pm

People get on my nerves. Gaming is my escape from them. Call me an introvert, but relaxation is something I really want to be alone for.

arkarian

2017-01-22 12:08:02 pm

red chamber dream

zelda for wii u preordered

the switch just ain't doing it for me, hopefully they have a mario bundle in the fall

Opium

2017-01-22 12:21:14 pm

Did you pre-order a physical copy, or pre-load a digital copy?

arkarian

2017-01-22 01:27:01 pm

red chamber dream

physical - all my wii u games have been physical, nintendo makes it too difficult to use downloadable games

arkarian

2017-01-22 01:27:14 pm

red chamber dream

plus amazon only gives the discount on physical games

Opium

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Opium: 2017-01-22 07:51:41 pm

2017-01-22 07:51:18 pm

Yeah but you have to wait until 3/30, right? I would get physical if it weren't for that.

I have 1.8TB of space on my WiiU with y-corded ext HD, so no issues there.

arkarian

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arkarian: 2017-01-22 07:56:27 pm

2017-01-22 07:55:23 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from Opium:

Yeah but you have to wait until 3/30, right? I would get physical if it weren't for that.

? i certainly don't think so - i haven't read that, and it's listed on amazon for 3 march. it does require like a 3 gb install though which is fine by me

Opium

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Opium: 2017-01-23 01:25:33 am

2017-01-23 01:25:08 am

It said that on the official site at first. It said 03/03 for Wii U digital and 03/30 for Wii U physical. Now it just says 'Check with your retailer' for the physical ver on the official site. Retailers show it at 03/03 as launch date. I wonder if they did that just to beef up Switch pre-orders?

ryu

2017-01-23 02:56:15 am

lmao I wouldn't be surpsied if there was no retail ersion at all for Wii U

Opium

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Opium: 2017-01-23 08:05:38 am

2017-01-23 08:05:20 am

Now I'm wondering if I should get the physical copy too instead of digital. Decisions....

We did take a couple of days off of work to play this game lol.

arkarian

2017-01-23 09:57:38 am

red chamber dream

Quote from ryu:

lmao I wouldn't be surpsied if there was no retail ersion at all for Wii U

i already bought one on amazon

Opium

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Opium: 2017-02-11 02:50:50 pm

2017-02-11 02:49:01 pm

OK my sweetie and I are having an argument. He says Ocarina of Time is the only game he's ever played that had a targeting system. In this case, it's called Z-targeting. This is complete nonsense because off the top of my head EVERY game I own that has a 3D environment has some sort of targeting system except RE4 that allows you to put your character's focus on person/object and toggle between them. He swears none of his games do. The games he plays are dishonored 1&2, assassins creed series, fallout (he says targeting is available ONLY for long range weapons), skyrim, deus ex, halo, and many more. I don't play any of these so I wouldn't know, but I cannot grasp what he's telling me. Dishonored, a game that afaik is great for those who love stealth, he says you can only interact with a specific enemy by standing right next to them with your character FACING them. If the idea of stealth is to not be seen, it seems strange to me that you have to stand right next to an enemy. Anyways, do you guys play any of these games and can you confirm that there is no targeting system of any kind that allows you to direct your character's focus to an enemy or object?

OK my sweetie and I are having an argument.  He says Ocarina of Time is the only game he's ever played that had a targeting system.  In this case, it's called Z-targeting.  This is complete nonsense because off the top of my head EVERY game I own that has a 3D environment has some sort of targeting system except RE4 that allows you to put your character's focus on person/object and toggle between them.  He swears none of his games do. The games he plays are dishonored 1&2, assassins creed series, fallout (he says targeting is available ONLY for long range weapons), skyrim, deus ex, halo, and many more.  I don't play any of these so I wouldn't know, but I cannot grasp what he's telling me.  Dishonored, a game that afaik is great for those who love stealth, he says you can only interact with a specific enemy by standing right next to them with your character FACING them.  If the idea of stealth is to not be seen, it seems strange to me that you have to stand right next to an enemy.  Anyways, do you guys play any of these games and can you confirm that there is no targeting system of any kind that allows you to direct your character's focus to an enemy or object?

Turtle

2017-02-11 03:04:23 pm

I like turtles.

The Bethesda games you mentioned don't have a targeting system per se, with the possible exception of VATS in Fallout (kind of a slow-mo, ultra-high-accuracy attack mode). You don't have to be RIGHT NEXT to an enemy to interact depending on how many ranged options you have but there's not much that would be analogous to Z-targeting. Having auto-targeting in Halo might kind of defeat the whole purpose. For AC, there is definitely a targeting/lock-on mechanic, maybe that just doesn't count for what he's talking about.

Have him play Kingdom Hearts, almost every installment has a targeting system very similar to 3D Zelda.

arkarian

2017-02-11 03:05:08 pm

red chamber dream

some of the AC games sort of have it. but in general i'd say it's not too terribly common

ocarina of time invented that, you know

arkarian

2017-02-11 03:06:23 pm

red chamber dream

oh yeah, it's all over the place in action rpgs

like yeah kh, kingdoms of amalur, tales, ni no kuni ...

arkarian

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arkarian: 2017-02-11 03:08:54 pm

2017-02-11 03:07:39 pm

red chamber dream

generally games like dishonored and pretty much every other first person game don't have them

fallout, definitely not. you can "lock on" to an enemy and zoom in using vats, but you can't move or strafe while doing so

Opium

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Opium: 2017-02-11 03:58:54 pm

Opium: 2017-02-11 03:51:42 pm

2017-02-11 03:50:53 pm

Maybe that's why I hate most of the games he plays.

But the funny thing is, he has played a bunch of games that DO have it (prime series, god of war series, luigis mansion,other 3d zeldas) and he swears that they DON'T have it.

Quote from arkarian:

ocarina of time invented that, you know

Yes and that's one of the reasons why it was so influential. TR on PC was the first game I played that actually had a 3D environment that felt right. Not sure if it came out before Ocarina, but the targeting system was automatic - you just get your guns out. Auto-targeting is much less desirable that manual, imo. Like in Prime, zelda, etc. You can use it or not use it.

Quote from arkarian:

some of the AC games sort of have it. but in general i'd say it's not too terribly common

Yeah I could have sworn when I played the pirate one for a few hours that I was able to toggle between enemies when there was a crowd of them. Can't you do that in the batman games? He plays the crap out of those.

Maybe that's why I hate most of the games he plays.

But the funny thing is, he has played a bunch of games that DO have it (prime series, god of war series, luigis mansion,other 3d zeldas) and he swears that they DON'T have it.

[quote="arkarian"]

ocarina of time invented that, you know[/quote]

Yes and that's one of the reasons why it was so influential.  TR on PC was the first game I played that actually had a 3D environment that felt right.  Not sure if it came out before Ocarina, but the targeting system was automatic - you just get your guns out.  Auto-targeting is much less desirable that manual, imo.  Like in Prime, zelda, etc.  You can use it or not use it.

[quote="arkarian"]some of the AC games sort of have it. but in general i'd say it's not too terribly common

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Yeah I could have sworn when I played the pirate one for a few hours that I was able to toggle between enemies when there was a crowd of them.  Can't you do that in the batman games?  He plays the crap out of those.

tomatobob

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tomatobob: 2017-02-11 05:02:57 pm

2017-02-11 05:02:48 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Batman doesn't have a lock on, you just direct him toward the guy what needs punching.

arkarian

2017-02-11 05:04:55 pm

red chamber dream

Quote:

Yeah I could have sworn when I played the pirate one for a few hours that I was able to toggle between enemies when there was a crowd of them

yep exactly, this mechanic started in the third game (brotherhood) iirc

tomatobob

2017-02-11 05:09:49 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Pretty sure 2 had it as well.