general gaming topic

tomatobob

2015-06-05 04:24:03 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Quietus:

What we're saying is: They're just voices, and have no person / name / history behind them.

Well I mean they clearly do as someone has to make the voice happen. :v

arkarian

2015-06-05 04:33:02 pm

red chamber dream

wonder how long it'll be before computers provide every voice in every game

Poision Envy

2015-06-05 04:50:56 pm

Club 27 Goals

Considering how shitty vocaloid sounds, and that's supposed to be like the pinnacle of real voice, probably like another 20 years at least.

Turtle

2015-06-05 05:01:09 pm

I like turtles.

Also, accounting for how much the critiquing of video games would develop apace with the technology, I would expect a significant push for "real" voices from a lot of people involved in the industry.

Opium

2015-06-05 05:02:13 pm

I hate voice acting in games. I prefer text. I'm always distracted by voice because they're always using strange tones that make it sound like they really have no grasp of the context, like they're just reading a script without having any clue what it means.

arkarian

2015-06-05 05:28:59 pm

red chamber dream

sounds like you need to play some more recent games

arkarian

2015-06-05 05:29:57 pm

red chamber dream

the general quality of va in games has improved dramatically in the past 5 years

Opium

2015-06-05 05:32:54 pm

I have another reason to hate it, though. I have to enable subtitles in case I can't understand wtf they're saying, and having them talk while I'm trying to read is annoying. I wish you could disable the voice and just go with text. I just prefer it.

arkarian

2015-06-05 05:39:27 pm

red chamber dream

i have that problem too, but most games let you adjust voice volume. i just turn it up a couple notches above the rest. i always play with subs on too, but only in case someone is whispering or something.

Opium

2015-06-05 05:41:13 pm

I never tried to turn the voice all the way down before. I guess I just assumed you could make it quiet, but not muted. Quiet would be even more annoying because then my brain would be going WHAT did he say?! I'll have to try turning it all the way down.

arkarian

2015-06-05 05:52:09 pm

red chamber dream

most volume sliders will let you mute, if they don't that's poor ui design

Toozin

Edit history:

Toozin: 2015-06-05 06:29:16 pm

2015-06-05 06:28:51 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

I always turn subtitles on in games, because otherwise I have trouble making out what's being said, even in noninteractive cutscenes. Which is weird, because I don't have that problem with TV or movies.

tomatobob

2015-06-05 06:33:19 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

It's because games tend to be really bad about making voices clips play at appropriate volume. Some games turning the voices all the way up doesn't even really help.

Toozin

2015-06-05 06:37:27 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Yeah, that's true. Also sometimes lip synching is off to the point of being distracting.

... Or conversely, so well done that it becomes distracting.

Opium

2015-06-05 06:38:43 pm

If voice in games was like TV or movies then I'd be all for it. But it's not. I can't put my finger on the exact reason why, but it just doesn't work for me.

Toozin

2015-06-05 06:44:31 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

It might be a kind of uncanny valley effect. Like your brain has a hard time reconciling a real human voice coming out of this fake person.

arkarian

2015-06-05 06:47:12 pm

red chamber dream

my brain knows it's fake, it just doesn't care

i dunno, i've always liked voice acting. can't imagine enjoying e.g. uncharted nearly as much without it. the voice acting is one of the very best parts of that game heh

Toozin

2015-06-05 06:51:37 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

I agree. Voice acting and interactive storytelling has come so far, it's on par with anything Hollywood can produce.

Opium

2015-06-05 06:52:01 pm

Maybe if they directed the game the same way a movie was directed then it would work. The script in games is so awkward sounding. It's like they know it's totally unnatural and they don't care because it's a game. The writing would never fly in a movie, so why is it good enough for a game? It's like the writing is forced because the game puts so little effort in communicating the story visually, so they have to rely on words, no matter how awkward the words sound when spoken. That stink imo.

Toozin

2015-06-05 06:58:38 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

What games are you playing?

Also games should absolutely not be scripted like movies. The story requirements are completely different. Unless it's something 100% cinematic like Heavy Rain, but even then they need to account for the fluidity of the plot.

Opium

2015-06-05 07:04:42 pm

But when they say shit that just sounds so ridiculous? Shit nobody would ever really say?

Opium

2015-06-05 07:05:12 pm

I guess I'm playing the wrong games.

Opium

2015-06-05 07:05:35 pm

I actually have the same problem with a lot of movies and TV, now that I think about it.

Toozin

2015-06-05 07:12:30 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Yeah, nobody in media talks like a real person. I've seem shows and such where they emulate real human speech very well, and it's awful.

Toozin

2015-06-05 07:14:00 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Of course there's an upper limit of how far you can go without sounding completely absurd. Then you get stuff like COMPLETE. GLOBAL. SATURATION.