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red chamber dream
right, so you're shutting those facts out of your life
red chamber dream
which is fine, but don't try and say they don't exist lol
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Opium: 2011-12-13 08:45:06 pm
Quote from kesvalk:
well, i measured more in terms of ppl that know the game, and a lot more ppl know about COD than zelda...

Again with the different circles.  I doubt anyone I know would even know what COD stood for.  It's just not the kind of thing someone would be into unless they were a young male.  I realize that young males make up the largest group in gaming, but 'everyone' is an even larger group - and I think zelda is an everyone game.
Quote from arkarian:
which is fine, but don't try and say they don't exist lol

I never insinuated that they didn't exist. 
red chamber dream
perhaps, but i know tons of people who would never touch a zelda game. who you know doesn't really matter when talking about the scope of an entire industry
LOL all the logic you throw at me doesn't apply to you, I suppose?
red chamber dream
not sure what you mean
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Opium: 2011-12-13 08:48:52 pm
I mean that there aren't any points that we are butting heads on or disagreeing outright, we're just comparing notes on how shit looks from where we sit, yet you are arguing points of logic to me which suggest I'm incorrect, when the same points could be applied to your claims if one wanted to discredit them.
red chamber dream
i was using sales numbers to determine popularity of games ... you were using the people you know personally
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Opium: 2011-12-13 08:51:33 pm
Do sales numbers even apply to goty?  I mentioned the 'people I know' in the same context that you did.
red chamber dream
not really, i wasn't trying to argue game of the year candidates based on sales numbers though
red chamber dream
talking about goty just led us into a discussion about game popularity
red chamber dream
the reason i don't think ss is going to win many goty awards is based on what i've read/heard on video game sites, ie the people who choose these sorts of things
red chamber dream
not based on what my friends say
Indie Lover
well, everyone knows that aguing in the internet is like the para-olimpics...
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arkarian: 2011-12-13 08:53:30 pm
red chamber dream
if my friends were to pick goty it'd be gears of war 3 because that's all they play

but i don't think gears 3 is going to win any goty awards from websites at all
I think zelda is really popular among older farts, and the critics are usually just that.  I am surprised that it's so unpopular in your circles.  When I actually stood outside in the cold and waited in line before the store opened to buy SS, the people in the crowd seemed to be of an 'everyone' type. BTW, I haven't had to wait in a line before the store opened to buy a game since TP came out.
Indie Lover
well, if COD won, why not gears 3? it seems that the more shitty the game is the more chances it have to win something...
red chamber dream
Quote from Opium:
I think zelda is really popular among older farts, and the critics are usually just that.

this is almost completely untrue lol. nearly everyone working in games journalism is in their 20s or very early 30s.
That IS old farts compared to the throngs of 12-18 year olds who play COD.
red chamber dream
you're underestimating the amount of people who play cod
Indie Lover
i am 24 and i am already a old fart in the community ark, anyone that was a gamer in the NES era is a old fart
'Throngs' is an underestimation?
red chamber dream
i wouldn't be surprised if 12-18 were the smallest demographic of people who play cod
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i wouldn't be surprised if 12-18 were the smallest demographic of people who play cod


OK - now I flat out disagree. How would we see that, though?
red chamber dream
there's probably statistics somewhere