Echoes Randomizer

DJGrenola

Edit history:

DJGrenola: 2014-08-10 04:48:48 pm

2014-08-10 04:47:25 pm

(mkiso.php v0.2 will be arriving soonish for those seeking an alternative rebuilder)

rekameohs

2014-08-10 05:21:21 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Ah, it is too big for GC Rebuilder, so it'll probably be best to wait for DJGrenola's tool. In the meantime, I'll stitch something up that removes a multiplayer audio file like JustinDM posted.

DJGrenola

2014-08-10 06:36:58 pm

ah that's a neat fix actually

alelau18

2014-08-10 06:57:00 pm

Every time I pick up Grapple Beam the game crashes >_> time for a re rip

T3

2014-08-10 07:34:07 pm

for the record, i haven't had any problems with the randomizer using dios mios.

rekameohs

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rekameohs: 2014-08-10 08:58:56 pm

rekameohs: 2014-08-10 08:58:33 pm

2014-08-10 08:55:07 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hlnv5b4nb76hotn/MPR_Script_v0.6.zip

Here's a quick update of the script. This includes both the Prime 1 and the Echoes Randomizers in one, so you can easily keep your randomizer stuff together. There's some more features I'll want to add, so give that a few more days, but for now, this has what you'll need - all the features from the MP1 Randomizer script and for MP2 - another new custom banner, customize randomizer, turn off item loss. Just save the ISO as mp2.iso and you're good to go.

Since GC Rebuilder is really weird with this game, you need to do some finagling: selecting that option will open up GC Rebuilder, then you'll need to turn off looking at "Game.toc", then you'll need to manually find the root directory and save the ISO. A step by step process is in the script.

There's not been much testing for this. At the very least, North American Echoes works on Dolphin and Nintendont, so that's good.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and this does delete "multi-defbgm32.dsp" and replaces it with an empty file of the same name, so I would hope that it would just have no music for whatever track that is (my guess is "Hunters"), but it's possible that it could crash. But I would assume that would only happen in multiplayer.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hlnv5b4nb76hotn/MPR_Script_v0.6.zip

Here's a quick update of the script. This includes both the Prime 1 and the Echoes Randomizers in one, so you can easily keep your randomizer stuff together. There's some more features I'll want to add, so give that a few more days, but for now, this has what you'll need - all the features from the MP1 Randomizer script and for MP2 - another new custom banner, customize randomizer, turn off item loss. Just save the ISO as mp2.iso and you're good to go.

Since GC Rebuilder is really weird with this game, you need to do some finagling: selecting that option will open up GC Rebuilder, then you'll need to turn off looking at "Game.toc", then you'll need to manually find the root directory and save the ISO. A step by step process is in the script.

There's not been much testing for this. At the very least, North American Echoes works on Dolphin and Nintendont, so that's good.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and this does delete "multi-defbgm32.dsp" and replaces it with an empty file of the same name, so I would hope that it would just have no music for whatever track that is (my guess is "Hunters"), but it's possible that it could crash. But I would assume that would only happen in multiplayer.

JRP2234

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JRP2234: 2014-08-10 09:21:44 pm

2014-08-10 09:18:02 pm

A Washing Machine

Um is that zip file working?

It says its not a archive and/or is damaged.

EDIT: Never mind chrome decided to stuff with the zip file.

rekameohs

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rekameohs: 2014-08-10 09:44:55 pm

2014-08-10 09:40:29 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Chrome likes to be a meanie with EXE files that it doesn't know - aka Echoes_Randomizer.exe

And just for clarification Miles, only the Echoes Randomizer is able to directly edit the PAK files without the need for PakTool; Prime Randomizer hasn't added that feature, right?

Aruki

2014-08-10 09:50:20 pm

It hasn't. Prime 1 randomizer will probably be seeing an update soon though.

rekameohs

2014-08-10 09:52:18 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Awesome. And thanks for your work guys, Echoes Randomizer's gonna be more fun to me since wallcrawling is so much easier.

alelau18

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alelau18: 2014-08-10 10:22:53 pm

2014-08-10 10:22:31 pm

The script doesnt work with pal, I think PAL's Game.toc is missing on the tools folder you uploaded, works fine with USA NTSC

rekameohs

2014-08-10 10:24:27 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Quote from alelau18:

The script doesnt work with pal, I think PAL's Game.toc is missing on the tools folder you uploaded

Yes, it is. I'll have it fixed soon, but I just wanted to get something out that works for NA as quick as possible. I had a feeling that Game.toc is different for the different versions, but if it's not, then just rename it for the time being. It'll be a really quick fix.

Gunert

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Gunert: 2014-08-12 12:05:47 am

Gunert: 2014-08-11 01:25:18 am

2014-08-11 01:17:24 am

west furnace access why

I've got a really easy seed for people wanting to do a run without any wallcrawling
Seed: 47546
here's the log:

Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hall of Honored Dead - Seeker Launcher - Echo Visor
Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber B - Missile Expansion - Dark Visor
Temple Grounds - War Ritual Grounds - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 2
Temple Grounds - Windchamber Gateway - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Transport to Agon Wastes - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Temple Assembly Site - Missile Expansion - Dark Beam
Temple Grounds - Grand Windchamber - Sunburst - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Dynamo Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 6
Temple Grounds - Storage Cavern B - Energy Tank - Agon Key 3
Temple Grounds - Plain of Dark Worship - Missile Expansion - Sunburst
Temple Grounds - Defiled Shrine - Sky Temple Key 8 - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Communication Area - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 9
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Main) - Missile Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Accursed Lake - Sky Temple Key 9 - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Fortress Transport Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Profane Path - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Phazon Grounds - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Ing Reliquary - Sky Temple Key 7 - Missile Expansion
Great Temple - Transport A Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Great Temple - Temple Sanctuary - Small glowy sphere - Small glowy sphere
Great Temple - Transport B Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Great Temple - Main Energy Controller - Light Suit - Grapple Beam
Agon Wastes - Mining Plaza - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station B - Darkburst - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Transport Center - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Mining Station A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 4 - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 3
Agon Wastes - Junction Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage A - Missile Expansion - Light Suit
Agon Wastes - Mine Shaft - Energy Tank - Sanctuary Key 3
Agon Wastes - Crossroads - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Cache - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Portal Access A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Judgment Pit - Space Jump - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Agon Temple - Bombs - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Trial Tunnel - Agon Key 1 - Super Missile
Agon Wastes - Central Mining Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Warrior's Walk - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sandcanyon - Power Bomb Expansion - Sonic Boom
Agon Wastes - Dark Agon Temple - Dark Suit - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Main) - Agon Key 3 - Sanctuary Key 2
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Secondary) - Sky Temple Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ventilation Area A - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Command Center - Missile Expansion - Light Beam
Agon Wastes - Main Reactor - Missile Expansion - Screw Attack
Agon Wastes - Doomed Entry - Agon Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Processing - Missile Expansion - Darkburst
Agon Wastes - Storage D - Dark Beam - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Dark Oasis - Sky Temple Key 2 - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage B - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Feeding Pit - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Bioenergy Production - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 5
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 1 - Light Beam - Agon Key 1
Agon Wastes - Storage C - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 2 - Sonic Boom - Beam Ammo Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Lagoon - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Portal Chamber - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Path of Roots - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Forgotten Bridge - Missile Expansion - Missile Launcher
Torvus Bog - Great Bridge - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 7
Torvus Bog - Cache A - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Plaza Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Abandoned Worksite - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 2
Torvus Bog - Poisoned Bog - Sky Temple Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Venemous Pond - Torvus Key 3 - Sky Temple Key 8
Torvus Bog - Temple Access - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 3
Torvus Bog - Torvus Plaza - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Putrid Alcove - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Grove - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 1
Torvus Bog - Torvus Temple - Super Missile - Gravity Boost
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Main) - Boost Ball - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Secondary) - Torvus Key 1 - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Underground Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Meditation Vista - Energy Tank - Agon Key 2
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Temple - Dark Visor - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Cache B - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrodynamo Station - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Undertemple Access - Torvus Key 2 - Seeker Launcher
Torvus Bog - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Torvus Bog - Training Chamber - Missile Expansion - Dark Suit
Torvus Bog - Sacrificial Chamber - Grapple Beam - Bombs
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 1
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Main) - Main Power Bomb - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel South - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel East - Energy Tank - Boost Ball
Torvus Bog - Dungeon - Sky Temple Key 4 - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Hydrochamber Storage - Gravity Boost - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertransit One - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance - Power Bomb Expansion - Space Jump
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - Power Bomb Expansion - Annihilator Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - Missile Expansion - Main Power Bomb
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 4
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - Sanctuary Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Main) - Spider Ball - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - Sky Temple Key 6 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Main) - Sanctuary Key 3 - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - Screw Attack - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - Sanctuary Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - Annihilator Beam - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - Sky Temple Key 5 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - Echo Visor - Missile Expansion

I've got a really easy seed for people wanting to do a run without any wallcrawling
Seed: 47546
here's the log:
[hidden]Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hall of Honored Dead - Seeker Launcher - Echo Visor
Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber B - Missile Expansion - Dark Visor
Temple Grounds - War Ritual Grounds - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 2
Temple Grounds - Windchamber Gateway - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Transport to Agon Wastes - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Temple Assembly Site - Missile Expansion - Dark Beam
Temple Grounds - Grand Windchamber - Sunburst - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Dynamo Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 6
Temple Grounds - Storage Cavern B - Energy Tank - Agon Key 3
Temple Grounds - Plain of Dark Worship - Missile Expansion - Sunburst
Temple Grounds - Defiled Shrine - Sky Temple Key 8 - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Communication Area - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 9
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Main) - Missile Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Accursed Lake - Sky Temple Key 9 - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Fortress Transport Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Profane Path - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Phazon Grounds - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Ing Reliquary - Sky Temple Key 7 - Missile Expansion
Great Temple - Transport A Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Great Temple - Temple Sanctuary - Small glowy sphere - Small glowy sphere
Great Temple - Transport B Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Great Temple - Main Energy Controller - Light Suit - Grapple Beam
Agon Wastes - Mining Plaza - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station B - Darkburst - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Transport Center - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Mining Station A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 4 - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 3
Agon Wastes - Junction Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage A - Missile Expansion - Light Suit
Agon Wastes - Mine Shaft - Energy Tank - Sanctuary Key 3
Agon Wastes - Crossroads - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Cache - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Portal Access A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Judgment Pit - Space Jump - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Agon Temple - Bombs - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Trial Tunnel - Agon Key 1 - Super Missile
Agon Wastes - Central Mining Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Warrior's Walk - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sandcanyon - Power Bomb Expansion - Sonic Boom
Agon Wastes - Dark Agon Temple - Dark Suit - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Main) - Agon Key 3 - Sanctuary Key 2
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Secondary) - Sky Temple Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ventilation Area A - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Command Center - Missile Expansion - Light Beam
Agon Wastes - Main Reactor - Missile Expansion - Screw Attack
Agon Wastes - Doomed Entry - Agon Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Processing - Missile Expansion - Darkburst
Agon Wastes - Storage D - Dark Beam - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Dark Oasis - Sky Temple Key 2 - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage B - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Feeding Pit - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Bioenergy Production - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 5
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 1 - Light Beam - Agon Key 1
Agon Wastes - Storage C - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 2 - Sonic Boom - Beam Ammo Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Lagoon - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Portal Chamber - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Path of Roots - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Forgotten Bridge - Missile Expansion - Missile Launcher
Torvus Bog - Great Bridge - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 7
Torvus Bog - Cache A - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Plaza Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Abandoned Worksite - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 2
Torvus Bog - Poisoned Bog - Sky Temple Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Venemous Pond - Torvus Key 3 - Sky Temple Key 8
Torvus Bog - Temple Access - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 3
Torvus Bog - Torvus Plaza - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Putrid Alcove - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Grove - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 1
Torvus Bog - Torvus Temple - Super Missile - Gravity Boost
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Main) - Boost Ball - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Secondary) - Torvus Key 1 - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Underground Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Meditation Vista - Energy Tank - Agon Key 2
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Temple - Dark Visor - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Cache B - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrodynamo Station - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Undertemple Access - Torvus Key 2 - Seeker Launcher
Torvus Bog - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Torvus Bog - Training Chamber - Missile Expansion - Dark Suit
Torvus Bog - Sacrificial Chamber - Grapple Beam - Bombs
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 1
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Main) - Main Power Bomb - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel South - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel East - Energy Tank - Boost Ball
Torvus Bog - Dungeon - Sky Temple Key 4 - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Hydrochamber Storage - Gravity Boost - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertransit One - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance - Power Bomb Expansion - Space Jump
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - Power Bomb Expansion - Annihilator Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - Missile Expansion - Main Power Bomb
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 4
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - Sanctuary Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Main) - Spider Ball - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - Sky Temple Key 6 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Main) - Sanctuary Key 3 - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - Screw Attack - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - Sanctuary Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - Annihilator Beam - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - Sky Temple Key 5 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - Echo Visor - Missile Expansion
[/hidden]

T3

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T3: 2014-08-11 03:59:01 am

2014-08-11 03:56:25 am

i think i might have gotten myself stuck. i'm currently in sacred path. i can't escape through sacred bridge because i don't have the dark visor and i can't escape by taking the elevator because it leads to a gate i can't open. are there any secret worlds i can enter or any way to escape?

Metroid177

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Metroid177: 2014-08-11 06:25:02 am

Metroid177: 2014-08-11 06:24:46 am

2014-08-11 06:22:03 am

the elevator by that room has a secret world. getting on top of the door is pretty annoying but doable. you can save before it to. if you have screw attack then you can get oob by screw attacking into the morph ball tunnel (the side you exit) in sacred path

edit: if you have screw attack there's also a sw below the save station.

DJGrenola

Edit history:

DJGrenola: 2014-08-11 06:37:45 am

2014-08-11 06:37:33 am

Quote from rekameohs:

I had a feeling that Game.toc is different for the different versions

it will be, yeah, since it specifies the offset and size of every file on the disc.

icefire

2014-08-12 07:26:19 am

erifeci

Got a ~~pain in the ass~~ challenging seed for someone that isn't afraid of some oob.
Only seed so far where I didn't need Light Suit

Seed: 443192249

Log:

Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hall of Honored Dead - Seeker Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber B - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Temple Grounds - War Ritual Grounds - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Windchamber Gateway - Energy Tank - Dark Beam
Temple Grounds - Transport to Agon Wastes - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Temple Assembly Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Grand Windchamber - Sunburst - Screw Attack
Temple Grounds - Dynamo Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Storage Cavern B - Energy Tank - Gravity Boost
Temple Grounds - Plain of Dark Worship - Missile Expansion - Boost Ball
Temple Grounds - Defiled Shrine - Sky Temple Key 8 - Main Power Bomb
Temple Grounds - Communication Area - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Main) - Missile Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Dark Suit
Temple Grounds - Accursed Lake - Sky Temple Key 9 - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Fortress Transport Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Profane Path - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Temple Grounds - Phazon Grounds - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Ing Reliquary - Sky Temple Key 7 - Agon Key 1
Great Temple - Transport A Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Great Temple - Temple Sanctuary - Small glowy sphere - Small glowy sphere
Great Temple - Transport B Access - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Great Temple - Main Energy Controller - Light Suit - Sunburst
Agon Wastes - Mining Plaza - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 2
Agon Wastes - Mining Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station B - Darkburst - Sonic Boom
Agon Wastes - Transport Center - Missile Expansion - Agon Key 3
Agon Wastes - Mining Station A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 8
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 4 - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Junction Site - Missile Expansion - Echo Visor
Agon Wastes - Storage A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 1
Agon Wastes - Mine Shaft - Energy Tank - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Crossroads - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Cache - Missile Expansion - Missile Launcher
Agon Wastes - Portal Access A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 5
Agon Wastes - Judgment Pit - Space Jump - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Agon Temple - Bombs - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Trial Tunnel - Agon Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Central Mining Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Warrior's Walk - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sandcanyon - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Dark Agon Temple - Dark Suit - Super Missile
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Main) - Agon Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Secondary) - Sky Temple Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ventilation Area A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Command Center - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Main Reactor - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Doomed Entry - Agon Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Processing - Missile Expansion - Dark Visor
Agon Wastes - Storage D - Dark Beam - Darkburst
Agon Wastes - Dark Oasis - Sky Temple Key 2 - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Storage B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Feeding Pit - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Bioenergy Production - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 1 - Light Beam - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage C - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 1
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 2 - Sonic Boom - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Torvus Lagoon - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Portal Chamber - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Torvus Bog - Path of Roots - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 3
Torvus Bog - Forgotten Bridge - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Great Bridge - Power Bomb Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Cache A - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Plaza Access - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Abandoned Worksite - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 6
Torvus Bog - Poisoned Bog - Sky Temple Key 3 - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Venemous Pond - Torvus Key 3 - Torvus Key 2
Torvus Bog - Temple Access - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Torvus Plaza - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Putrid Alcove - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 9
Torvus Bog - Torvus Grove - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Temple - Super Missile - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Main) - Boost Ball - Light Suit
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Secondary) - Torvus Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Underground Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Meditation Vista - Energy Tank - Agon Key 2
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Temple - Dark Visor - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Cache B - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrodynamo Station - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 4
Torvus Bog - Undertemple Access - Torvus Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Training Chamber - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Sacrificial Chamber - Grapple Beam - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Main) - Main Power Bomb - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel South - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel East - Energy Tank - Torvus Key 1
Torvus Bog - Dungeon - Sky Temple Key 4 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrochamber Storage - Gravity Boost - Beam Ammo Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertransit One - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core - Energy Tank - Space Jump
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - Power Bomb Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - Sanctuary Key 1 - Seeker Launcher
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Main) - Spider Ball - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 2
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - Sky Temple Key 6 - Light Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access - Energy Tank - Torvus Key 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Main) - Sanctuary Key 3 - Sanctuary Key 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - Screw Attack - Annihilator Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - Sanctuary Key 2 - Sky Temple Key 7
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - Annihilator Beam - Grapple Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - Sky Temple Key 5 - Bombs
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - Echo Visor - Missile Expansion

Got a [s]pain in the ass[/s] challenging seed for someone that isn't afraid of some oob.
Only seed so far where I didn't need Light Suit

Seed: 443192249

Log:
[hidden]Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hall of Honored Dead - Seeker Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber B - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Temple Grounds - War Ritual Grounds - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Windchamber Gateway - Energy Tank - Dark Beam
Temple Grounds - Transport to Agon Wastes - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Temple Assembly Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Grand Windchamber - Sunburst - Screw Attack
Temple Grounds - Dynamo Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Storage Cavern B - Energy Tank - Gravity Boost
Temple Grounds - Plain of Dark Worship - Missile Expansion - Boost Ball
Temple Grounds - Defiled Shrine - Sky Temple Key 8 - Main Power Bomb
Temple Grounds - Communication Area - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Main) - Missile Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Dark Suit
Temple Grounds - Accursed Lake - Sky Temple Key 9 - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Fortress Transport Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Profane Path - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Temple Grounds - Phazon Grounds - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Ing Reliquary - Sky Temple Key 7 - Agon Key 1
Great Temple - Transport A Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Great Temple - Temple Sanctuary - Small glowy sphere - Small glowy sphere
Great Temple - Transport B Access - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Great Temple - Main Energy Controller - Light Suit - Sunburst
Agon Wastes - Mining Plaza - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 2
Agon Wastes - Mining Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station B - Darkburst - Sonic Boom
Agon Wastes - Transport Center - Missile Expansion - Agon Key 3
Agon Wastes - Mining Station A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 8
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 4 - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Junction Site - Missile Expansion - Echo Visor
Agon Wastes - Storage A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 1
Agon Wastes - Mine Shaft - Energy Tank - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Crossroads - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Cache - Missile Expansion - Missile Launcher
Agon Wastes - Portal Access A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 5
Agon Wastes - Judgment Pit - Space Jump - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Agon Temple - Bombs - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Trial Tunnel - Agon Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Central Mining Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Warrior's Walk - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sandcanyon - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Dark Agon Temple - Dark Suit - Super Missile
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Main) - Agon Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Secondary) - Sky Temple Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ventilation Area A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Command Center - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Main Reactor - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Doomed Entry - Agon Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Processing - Missile Expansion - Dark Visor
Agon Wastes - Storage D - Dark Beam - Darkburst
Agon Wastes - Dark Oasis - Sky Temple Key 2 - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Storage B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Feeding Pit - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Bioenergy Production - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 1 - Light Beam - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage C - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 1
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 2 - Sonic Boom - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Torvus Lagoon - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Portal Chamber - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Torvus Bog - Path of Roots - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 3
Torvus Bog - Forgotten Bridge - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Great Bridge - Power Bomb Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Cache A - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Plaza Access - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Abandoned Worksite - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 6
Torvus Bog - Poisoned Bog - Sky Temple Key 3 - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Venemous Pond - Torvus Key 3 - Torvus Key 2
Torvus Bog - Temple Access - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Torvus Plaza - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Putrid Alcove - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 9
Torvus Bog - Torvus Grove - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Temple - Super Missile - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Main) - Boost Ball - Light Suit
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Secondary) - Torvus Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Underground Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Meditation Vista - Energy Tank - Agon Key 2
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Temple - Dark Visor - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Cache B - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrodynamo Station - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 4
Torvus Bog - Undertemple Access - Torvus Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Training Chamber - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Sacrificial Chamber - Grapple Beam - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Main) - Main Power Bomb - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel South - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel East - Energy Tank - Torvus Key 1
Torvus Bog - Dungeon - Sky Temple Key 4 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrochamber Storage - Gravity Boost - Beam Ammo Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertransit One - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core - Energy Tank - Space Jump
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - Power Bomb Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - Sanctuary Key 1 - Seeker Launcher
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Main) - Spider Ball - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 2
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - Sky Temple Key 6 - Light Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access - Energy Tank - Torvus Key 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Main) - Sanctuary Key 3 - Sanctuary Key 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - Screw Attack - Annihilator Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - Sanctuary Key 2 - Sky Temple Key 7
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - Annihilator Beam - Grapple Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - Sky Temple Key 5 - Bombs
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - Echo Visor - Missile Expansion[/hidden]

Laraeph

2014-08-12 11:19:56 am

I just completed my first randomizer with an in-game time of 8 hours... Not counting the numerous times I had to look at a map and even more numerous times I had to reload savestates over and over because I couldn't do a trick properly.
After finishing, I could have sworm Parax or Miles have streamed a very similar seed... Could be wrong.

Anyway, very oob intensive seed (my routing made it that way at least), and each time I was about to give up (or get stuck because I only had a couple items I could reach left), I acquired a new item that opened a bunch of new possibilities. Definitely fun, despite the few tricks that took me forever to perform (early boost gate jumping, torvus transport access dash SW...)

Seed: 1152177410
Excluded pickups: 21

Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hall of Honored Dead - Seeker Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - War Ritual Grounds - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Windchamber Gateway - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Transport to Agon Wastes - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Temple Assembly Site - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Temple Grounds - Grand Windchamber - Sunburst - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Dynamo Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Storage Cavern B - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Plain of Dark Worship - Missile Expansion - Light Suit
Temple Grounds - Defiled Shrine - Sky Temple Key 8 - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Communication Area - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Main) - Missile Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Annihilator Beam
Temple Grounds - Accursed Lake - Sky Temple Key 9 - Dark Visor
Temple Grounds - Fortress Transport Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Profane Path - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Launcher
Temple Grounds - Phazon Grounds - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 2
Temple Grounds - Ing Reliquary - Sky Temple Key 7 - Super Missile
Great Temple - Transport A Access - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 2
Great Temple - Temple Sanctuary - Small glowy sphere - Small glowy sphere
Great Temple - Transport B Access - Missile Expansion - Bombs
Great Temple - Main Energy Controller - Light Suit - Sky Temple Key 4
Agon Wastes - Mining Plaza - Energy Tank - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station B - Darkburst - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Transport Center - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station A - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 4 - Missile Expansion - Main Power Bomb
Agon Wastes - Junction Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 3
Agon Wastes - Mine Shaft - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Crossroads - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 6
Agon Wastes - Sand Cache - Missile Expansion - Gravity Boost
Agon Wastes - Portal Access A - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Judgment Pit - Space Jump - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Agon Temple - Bombs - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Trial Tunnel - Agon Key 1 - Sunburst
Agon Wastes - Central Mining Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Warrior's Walk - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Sandcanyon - Power Bomb Expansion - Dark Suit
Agon Wastes - Dark Agon Temple - Dark Suit - Agon Key 1
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Main) - Agon Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Secondary) - Sky Temple Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ventilation Area A - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 3
Agon Wastes - Command Center - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Main Reactor - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Doomed Entry - Agon Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Processing - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage D - Dark Beam - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Dark Oasis - Sky Temple Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage B - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Feeding Pit - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Bioenergy Production - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 1 - Light Beam - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Storage C - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 2 - Sonic Boom - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Lagoon - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Portal Chamber - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Path of Roots - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Forgotten Bridge - Missile Expansion - Space Jump
Torvus Bog - Great Bridge - Power Bomb Expansion - Agon Key 3
Torvus Bog - Cache A - Beam Ammo Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Plaza Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Abandoned Worksite - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Poisoned Bog - Sky Temple Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Venemous Pond - Torvus Key 3 - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Temple Access - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 1
Torvus Bog - Torvus Plaza - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Putrid Alcove - Power Bomb Expansion - Sonic Boom
Torvus Bog - Torvus Grove - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Temple - Super Missile - Boost Ball
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Main) - Boost Ball - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Secondary) - Torvus Key 1 - Agon Key 2
Torvus Bog - Underground Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Meditation Vista - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Temple - Dark Visor - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Cache B - Energy Tank - Seeker Launcher
Torvus Bog - Hydrodynamo Station - Missile Expansion - Darkburst
Torvus Bog - Undertemple Access - Torvus Key 2 - Screw Attack
Torvus Bog - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Training Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Sacrificial Chamber - Grapple Beam - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 2
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Main) - Main Power Bomb - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel South - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel East - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 5
Torvus Bog - Dungeon - Sky Temple Key 4 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrochamber Storage - Gravity Boost - Light Beam
Torvus Bog - Undertransit One - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 9
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - Sanctuary Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Main) - Spider Ball - Sky Temple Key 8
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 7
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Dark Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - Sky Temple Key 6 - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access - Energy Tank - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Main) - Sanctuary Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Echo Visor
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Torvus Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - Screw Attack - Sanctuary Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - Missile Expansion - Grapple Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - Sanctuary Key 2 - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - Annihilator Beam - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - Sky Temple Key 5 - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - Echo Visor - Sanctuary Key 3

I just completed my first randomizer with an in-game time of 8 hours... Not counting the numerous times I had to look at a map and even more numerous times I had to reload savestates over and over because I couldn't do a trick properly.
After finishing, I could have sworm Parax or Miles have streamed a very similar seed... Could be wrong.

Anyway, very oob intensive seed (my routing made it that way at least), and each time I was about to give up (or get stuck because I only had a couple items I could reach left), I acquired a new item that opened a bunch of new possibilities. Definitely fun, despite the few tricks that took me forever to perform (early boost gate jumping, torvus transport access dash SW...)

Seed: 1152177410
Excluded pickups: 21 
[hidden]Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hall of Honored Dead - Seeker Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Hive Chamber B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - War Ritual Grounds - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Windchamber Gateway - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Transport to Agon Wastes - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Temple Assembly Site - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Temple Grounds - Grand Windchamber - Sunburst - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Dynamo Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Energy Tank
Temple Grounds - Storage Cavern B - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Plain of Dark Worship - Missile Expansion - Light Suit
Temple Grounds - Defiled Shrine - Sky Temple Key 8 - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Communication Area - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Main) - Missile Launcher - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - GFMC Compound (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Annihilator Beam
Temple Grounds - Accursed Lake - Sky Temple Key 9 - Dark Visor
Temple Grounds - Fortress Transport Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Temple Grounds - Profane Path - Beam Ammo Expansion - Missile Launcher
Temple Grounds - Phazon Grounds - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 2
Temple Grounds - Ing Reliquary - Sky Temple Key 7 - Super Missile
Great Temple - Transport A Access - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 2
Great Temple - Temple Sanctuary - Small glowy sphere - Small glowy sphere
Great Temple - Transport B Access - Missile Expansion - Bombs
Great Temple - Main Energy Controller - Light Suit - Sky Temple Key 4
Agon Wastes - Mining Plaza - Energy Tank - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station Access - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station B - Darkburst - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Transport Center - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Mining Station A - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 4 - Missile Expansion - Main Power Bomb
Agon Wastes - Junction Site - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage A - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 3
Agon Wastes - Mine Shaft - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Crossroads - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 6
Agon Wastes - Sand Cache - Missile Expansion - Gravity Boost
Agon Wastes - Portal Access A - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Judgment Pit - Space Jump - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Agon Temple - Bombs - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Trial Tunnel - Agon Key 1 - Sunburst
Agon Wastes - Central Mining Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Warrior's Walk - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Sandcanyon - Power Bomb Expansion - Dark Suit
Agon Wastes - Dark Agon Temple - Dark Suit - Agon Key 1
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Main) - Agon Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Battleground (Secondary) - Sky Temple Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ventilation Area A - Missile Expansion - Torvus Key 3
Agon Wastes - Command Center - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Agon Wastes - Main Reactor - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Doomed Entry - Agon Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Sand Processing - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage D - Dark Beam - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Dark Oasis - Sky Temple Key 2 - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Storage B - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Agon Wastes - Feeding Pit - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Bioenergy Production - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 1 - Light Beam - Energy Tank
Agon Wastes - Storage C - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Agon Wastes - Ing Cache 2 - Sonic Boom - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Lagoon - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Portal Chamber - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Path of Roots - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Forgotten Bridge - Missile Expansion - Space Jump
Torvus Bog - Great Bridge - Power Bomb Expansion - Agon Key 3
Torvus Bog - Cache A - Beam Ammo Expansion - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Plaza Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Abandoned Worksite - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Poisoned Bog - Sky Temple Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Venemous Pond - Torvus Key 3 - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Temple Access - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 1
Torvus Bog - Torvus Plaza - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Torvus Bog - Putrid Alcove - Power Bomb Expansion - Sonic Boom
Torvus Bog - Torvus Grove - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Torvus Temple - Super Missile - Boost Ball
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Main) - Boost Ball - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Arena (Secondary) - Torvus Key 1 - Agon Key 2
Torvus Bog - Underground Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Meditation Vista - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Dark Torvus Temple - Dark Visor - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Cache B - Energy Tank - Seeker Launcher
Torvus Bog - Hydrodynamo Station - Missile Expansion - Darkburst
Torvus Bog - Undertemple Access - Torvus Key 2 - Screw Attack
Torvus Bog - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Training Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Sacrificial Chamber - Grapple Beam - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Sanctuary Key 2
Torvus Bog - Undertemple (Main) - Main Power Bomb - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel South - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Torvus Bog - Transit Tunnel East - Energy Tank - Sky Temple Key 5
Torvus Bog - Dungeon - Sky Temple Key 4 - Missile Expansion
Torvus Bog - Hydrochamber Storage - Gravity Boost - Light Beam
Torvus Bog - Undertransit One - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - Power Bomb Expansion - Sky Temple Key 9
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - Missile Expansion - Beam Ammo Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - Sanctuary Key 1 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Main) - Spider Ball - Sky Temple Key 8
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Sky Temple Key 7
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - Beam Ammo Expansion - Dark Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - Sky Temple Key 6 - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access - Energy Tank - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Main) - Sanctuary Key 3 - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site (Secondary) - Missile Expansion - Echo Visor
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - Power Bomb Expansion - Torvus Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - Screw Attack - Sanctuary Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - Missile Expansion - Grapple Beam
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - Sanctuary Key 2 - Energy Tank
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - Annihilator Beam - Missile Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - Sky Temple Key 5 - Power Bomb Expansion
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - Echo Visor - Sanctuary Key 3[/hidden]

T3

2014-08-12 07:44:46 pm

so is there some sort of a glitch with the emerald translator? i'm currently sitting at 100% (of 101%) and don't have the ability to open emerald gates (i'm assuming this means i don't have it). is this a known thing or is it possibly a glitch with the randomizer?

rekameohs

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rekameohs: 2014-08-12 09:56:20 pm

rekameohs: 2014-08-12 09:54:44 pm

2014-08-12 09:51:07 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

edit: wait a minute, forgot the dll like a dummy

MilesSMB

2014-08-12 09:55:45 pm

Quote from T3:

so is there some sort of a glitch with the emerald translator? i'm currently sitting at 100% (of 101%) and don't have the ability to open emerald gates (i'm assuming this means i don't have it). is this a known thing or is it possibly a glitch with the randomizer?

Are you sure you actually got Emerald (scanning the post more than once if necessary, and getting the "Energy Replenished" message)? The randomizer doesn't touch anything translator-related right now.

rekameohs

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rekameohs: 2014-08-12 11:42:56 pm

2014-08-12 11:00:25 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Forget my last post: Echoes Randomizer does work in Trilogy (US)!

T3

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T3: 2014-08-13 12:19:47 am

2014-08-13 12:18:17 am

Quote from MilesSMB:

Are you sure you actually got Emerald (scanning the post more than once if necessary, and getting the "Energy Replenished" message)? The randomizer doesn't touch anything translator-related right now.

the post doesn't exist anymore since i got the light suit item. i do distinctly remember activating the conversation with the luminoth in the torvus energy controller which afaik should give you the translator (unless you have to do something separate from that to get it). does getting the energy in the dark world before talking to the luminoth in the light world do anything? also i was able to open the emerald gate in gfmc compound but no other gates aside from that one.

Aruki

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Aruki: 2014-08-13 12:23:36 am

2014-08-13 12:22:48 am

The gate in GFMC Compound is actually a violet gate that looks like an emerald gate.

Which Luminoth conversation did you have? The game has different scan post objects that activate different cutscenes/Luminoth conversations when you scan them. Sequence breaking sometimes messes with this and makes it load more than one at the same time. You might've triggered one of the "go get this item" cutscenes and not the initial one where he gives you the translator. The translator one will end with your energy being replenished.

You typically have to get up close and look at the rotating ball thing to try to scan the one that activates the correct cutscene.

T3

2014-08-13 12:38:02 am

yeah i probably scanned the wrong thing. i know that a luminoth definitely appeared but if you're saying that scanning other objects in the room can also make a luminoth appear then that's probably what happened.

also why would they make that gate violet? wouldn't that allow you to reach sanctuary early?