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Chozoid
2010-03-17 11:32:49 am
Are there any kind of sequence breaks for beginners?  I've never SB'd in my life but I want to try it. 
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Quietus
2010-03-17 11:39:59 am
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Any particular title / console?

Are you looking for a run, or just for fun?
Chozoid
2010-03-17 11:41:16 am
Just for fun really.  Anything that's not RoS, Hunters, or Fusion (atm as I can't find it)
the_animal33
2010-03-17 11:50:09 am
Dont tempt fate
what game do you feel the most confident in? whatever game you feel like you're good enough to start sequence breaking.
Quietus
2010-03-17 12:14:41 pm
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Well, there're tonnes of normal sequence breaks in Zero Mission and Super; Prime has tonnes of SBing too, but a lot involve secret world travel.

If you're into Super, then I'd recommend the early Super Missiles, as it opens the game very early on.  Other than that, go for Zero Mission, as that's also very open.

Pick your favourite, and start with that, rather than going for what's 'easy'.
Gamma_Metroid
2010-03-17 02:56:16 pm
Space Jump First is a good one to start with in Prime, and from there you can get things like early missiles, the morph ball without fighting the beetles, and have a quick Flaahgra fight.
TheGreenManalishi
2010-03-17 03:01:06 pm
Early PB in Phendrana's edge (and then plasma, x-ray, more PBs) can be done in all versions (except maybe Wii, I dunno) and is so easy even I could do it.
ryu
2010-03-17 03:04:04 pm
Quote from TheGreenManalishi:
Early PB in Phendrana's edge (and then plasma, x-ray, more PBs) can be done in all versions (except maybe Wii, I dunno) and is so easy even I could do it.

That's still possible on Trilogy.
TheGreenManalishi
2010-03-17 03:11:56 pm
Even better.
Chozoid
2010-03-17 03:27:12 pm
OK, I'll try that eventually, but I just replayed Prime so I don't want to do it again. 
ryu
2010-03-17 03:35:38 pm
I would recommend trying to start off with your favourite (Metroid) game. What is most important to have when SBing are time and patience, because SBing is all about trying and trying and trying until you can pull a trick/SB off. Back then it had taken me hours just to get the button combination for SJF right.
tomatobob
2010-03-17 04:47:24 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from Quietus:
Prime has tonnes of SBing too, but a lot involve secret world travel.

No, Echoes uses SWs a lot but in Prime you can do all the good ones without even knowing SWs exist. All you really need is Space Jump to get things rolling.

If you want to get into sequence breaking I definitely recommend you start with Prime, if only because I like that one the best and SJF is awesome. It's also the one I started with and we've still got a few people who can give pointers if the site isn't as helpful as you'd like.

Super would probably be the best second choice, since you want to give Prime a rest. Mockballing might take a good amount of practice, like Prime the main site should be very helpful for  at least the more basic things and the forum is actually probably more of a help for this game than Prime, so getting started would be pretty easy.

Zero mission would be third since you aren't so much sequence breaking as doing a bunch of kickin rad things. Most of it isn't too hard, skipping the Acid Worm is probably the most difficult trick but it's easy to practice.
arkarian
2010-03-17 06:14:10 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from Gamma_Metroid:
Space Jump First is a good one to start with in Prime, and from there you can get things like early missiles, the morph ball without fighting the beetles, and have a quick Flaahgra fight.

the quick flaahgra fight is not easy, and neither is sjf if you're a beginner. but sjf is still the best place to start because it's more or less required for most of the easier tricks in the game. getting missiles early is very easy (just l jump to the expansion in the main plaza half pipe), and bomb jumping over the runic gate in arboretum isn't too bad either.
Gamma_Metroid
2010-03-17 06:18:05 pm
The quick Flaahgra fight may not be easy, but you can do just part of it if it's too difficult.  I've always found the side on the right as you walk in to be the easiest to get to, so you could do the first three with panels and the last without.
arkarian
2010-03-17 06:21:11 pm
red chamber dream
yeah definitely the first and usually second bombings are simple. i usually fuck up the third though.
Opium
2010-03-17 07:46:08 pm
Early supers is extremely gratifying the first time you do it in SM. 
JaggerG
2010-03-18 03:43:40 am
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Quote from tomatobob:
Zero mission would be third since you aren't so much sequence breaking as doing a bunch of kickin rad things. Most of it isn't too hard, skipping the Acid Worm is probably the most difficult trick but it's easy to practice.

Exactly, most of the "sequence breaks" in Zero Mission are no more than alternate routes. Maybe early Varfia counts, possibly varialess DBJing to SA in Norfair just because you go through some heated rooms to get it. If you get especially ambitious, you can skip the ziplines in Kraid before entering Norfair.
Chozoid
2010-03-18 08:43:16 pm
OK well I'm currently during a run of MP2, so are there any easy early items for that?
UchihaSasuke
2010-03-18 10:08:13 pm
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
hm, i'd say starting with your favorite game is a good way to begin SBing the series.

for example, the first SB i made was the Underwater Dash in mp2 to get the lower torvus items before seekers.
sabata2
2010-03-18 10:10:14 pm
ANKOKU
Quote from Chozoid:
OK well I'm currently during a run of MP2, so are there any easy early items for that?

You can get 101% by ghetto jumping off the foot rock at the very start.

That's the only one I know.
AJAX
2010-03-18 10:36:21 pm
“Well done is better than well said”
My favorite SB for prime 2 is early PB right after you get SJ. Check youtube or search the forum for that one. It involves a ghetto jump to a secret world in temple assembly site. There's also various early missile expansions and stuff listed on the main site that are fun. Some are easy and some are harder.
SkippyJr
2010-03-18 11:08:21 pm
In M2, Super, and Zero Mission you can do infinite bomb jumps without much difficulty.  Its a nice way to visit some places early.

It doesn't matter how you start.  After your first SB you'll be hooked!
tomatobob
2010-03-19 04:29:36 am
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from Chozoid:
OK well I'm currently during a run of MP2, so are there any easy early items for that?

This is the worst choice. :(
There is this, though. You've likely passed it but it gets you missiles and an energy tank pretty much right off the bat. It's a pain in the ass though, I've only managed it a couple times and like everything in Echoes it's not as satisfying as you'd think it would once you do it.
Chozoid
2010-04-01 06:37:59 pm
OK well I'm doing a MZM run and possibly a SM run.  What are good 'uns for those games?
tomatobob
2010-04-01 06:59:57 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.