Diagonal & Horizonal Bomb Jumping

2010-09-19 05:27:27 pm

Is there an easy way of how to learn these tricks?

I saw DBJ in 14% runs, but I can't get correct timing to do it by myself. Any tips?

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Quietus

2010-09-20 06:37:27 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

The DBJ trick is actually not THAT hard once you figure out which directions you need to be pressing.

To start, place your Bomb. Edge to the right, and then tap left, so that you're 'facing' the Bomb. Facing toward or away from your Bombs alters your momentum when it explodes. Release another just as it explodes. This is when you lay the next bomb, at the peak of your jump (so it'll be over to the right). You then need to arc back toward Bomb 2, and you should catch the right-hand edge, which bounces you back to the right. It will almost look like you stop moving when you get to the last Bomb, but you should be just to the right of it, and it will explode, and throw you the rest of the way. You usually need to unmorph for the last bit of distance.

As for horizontal, what exactly do you mean? Are you talking about laying a Bomb, and being bounced sideways? If so, once you've laid a Bomb your distance from it affects the angle at which you're thrown. If it's just a small gap, lay your bomb, and then tap the direction you want to go. If you need to go a little farther, try to hold the direction you want just before the Bomb explodes, so you're a little further away. This results in a different trajectory, and it's quite susprising how far you can jump.

The DBJ trick is actually not THAT hard once you figure out which directions you need to be pressing.

To start, place your Bomb.  Edge to the right, and then tap left, so that you're 'facing' the Bomb.  Facing toward or away from your Bombs alters your momentum when it explodes.  Release another just as it explodes.  This is when you lay the next bomb, at the peak of your jump (so it'll be over to the right).  You then need to arc back toward Bomb 2, and you should catch the right-hand edge, which bounces you back to the right.  It will almost look like you stop moving when you get to the last Bomb, but you should be just to the right of it, and it will explode, and throw you the rest of the way.  You usually need to unmorph for the last bit of distance.

As for horizontal, what exactly do you mean?  Are you talking about laying a Bomb, and being bounced sideways?  If so, once you've laid a Bomb your distance from it affects the angle at which you're thrown.  If it's just a small gap, lay your bomb, and then tap the direction you want to go.  If you need to go a little farther, try to hold the direction you want just before the Bomb explodes, so you're a little further away.  This results in a different trajectory, and it's quite susprising how far you can jump.

JAM

2010-09-22 08:24:00 pm

Quietus
Thanks for reply. As for DBJ, I understand how it works now, but
if I performing DBJ to the right, when I supposed to press left to
bounce back? Hold it all the time, or press it from time to time?

I can do double DBJ, but sometimes I can't bounce back after
second jump even if I hold left all the time and sometimes I can't
touch third bomb (in mid-air) in right time

Quietus

2010-09-23 06:19:04 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Yeah, that last part, where you have to arc far enough to the right for the farthest bomb is the only part that really ruins this trick, BUT it's at the point where you aren't really doing anything, as the explosions are doing the work for you. I haven't got it in front of me to test, but if I remember rightly, you press and hold left after you've laid the third bomb.

Bomb one explodes, and you lay bomb two straight away.
Once you hit the peak of your first jump (will be over to the right), you lay bomb three, and arc straight back toward bomb two.
When you hit bomb two and it explodes, you hold right.
Bomb two will launch you toward bomb three. You'll know straight away whether the positioning is correct, because bombs two and three explode, while you're holding right, and you'll make it across the lake. As soon as you do it feels really fluid and easy, like it's all one move, and is both satisfying and annoying. aiwebs_001