Debug menu found in Zero Mission

JaggerG

2007-04-06 08:38:03 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Quote from 13M13:

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I'm gonna confuse that for gvt3q38p21n0amv9x.

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-08 01:08:44 am

Not to go off topic but, about the Crocomire in Zero Mission. Is there a codebreaker code to make him appear or would I have to have a prehacked version of the rom? (If so, I'd like a link to said rom)

JaggerG

2007-04-08 02:08:12 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Even if you have him in the game, you can't beat him. It doesn't take damage. It's only partially coded. I don't believe he's assigned to any room though, so I doubt any codebreaker is going to make him appear.

I haven't heard of a ROM that completes his coding and uses him, though.

P.JMan

2007-04-08 03:45:18 am

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

Yeah, you could make it appear in a room with a cheat, but as already said, he's a little flickerbated

Lawrence Reyome

2007-04-08 07:38:31 am

Metroid Exp: Exploration - Great, Skills - Decent

Intrdepth is working on making a fully working Crocomire.

JaggerG

2007-04-08 08:28:25 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

*interdpth

Yeah, intercourse rocks.

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-08 10:57:47 am

Quote from P.JMan:

Yeah, you could make it appear in a room with a cheat, but as already said, he's a little flickerbated

I already know he doesn't attack. What's the cheat? I just want to make him appear.

Electrometer Prime

2007-04-08 07:10:06 pm

Plasma Without Ice FTW

You also glow a greenish color when you charge the beam.

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-08 08:56:06 pm

What's the code? I just want to see Crocomire appear.

JaggerG

2007-04-08 11:54:09 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

IIRC there's a vid of Crocomire in a save room, but other than that, you're gonna have to sit until someone finds the code and posts it.

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-09 12:27:25 am

I saw one of Crocomire in Kraid's room but that was it.

leafgreen386

2007-04-10 06:30:40 pm

Quote from MetroidJunkie:

I saw one of Crocomire in Kraid's room but that was it.

Yeah. I saw that one, too.

Anyway, imo this should be called the Item Switch. That's just me, though.

Tahngarthor

2007-04-11 10:54:00 pm

Bangaa Bishop

I wouldnt call it a debug menu since it doesnt really give you anything; it only lets you turn stuff off that you already have (at least thats what I gather from the pic).

i'm not sure what the use for this would be, compared to SM. Is there any time while playing normally where you'd wish you could turn something off? ( Potentially high jump but that's about all I can think of)

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-11 11:17:24 pm

Quote from Tahngarthor:

I wouldnt call it a debug menu since it doesnt really give you anything; it only lets you turn stuff off that you already have (at least thats what I gather from the pic).

i'm not sure what the use for this would be, compared to SM. Is there any time while playing normally where you'd wish you could turn something off? ( Potentially high jump but that's about all I can think of)

The same reason people do it on Super Metroid. For beam combos and to control what suit you're in.

Lawrence Reyome

2007-04-12 12:23:24 am

Metroid Exp: Exploration - Great, Skills - Decent

great, now all we need is someone to find a Zero Mission style Murder Beam

JaggerG

2007-04-12 01:54:11 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

any of you try testing items as they're in use, such as any beam, or speed booster?

P.JMan

2007-04-12 04:00:49 am

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

It waits until your finished with them (Speed Booster, Morph Ball, any Beam (including pistol))

Quote:

I wouldnt call it a debug menu since it doesnt really give you anything; it only lets you turn stuff off that you already have (at least thats what I gather from the pic).

Which is what a debug feture is Rolling Eyes

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-12 05:51:13 am

Too bad the menu doesn't let you turn off SUITS at will. It'll let you turn on, say, the Gravity suit but once they're on they're stuck on.

Raccoon Sam

2007-04-12 09:44:07 am

Quote from MetroidJunkie:

This proves it's in the game's coding, meaning Nintendo intended to add it at some point.

Just because it's coded in doesn't mean it was intentional at some point.
It's most likely that they did it just for debug features, so they don't have to play the game over and over again just to test a few things.
The main reason it's still there is because removing it completely would've been quite tricky.

Tahngarthor

2007-04-13 01:25:56 am

Bangaa Bishop

Quote from P.JMan:

It waits until your finished with them (Speed Booster, Morph Ball, any Beam (including pistol))

Quote:

I wouldnt call it a debug menu since it doesnt really give you anything; it only lets you turn stuff off that you already have (at least thats what I gather from the pic).

Which is what a debug feture is Rolling Eyes

What I mean is, I think it's just a left-out or unfinished feature, not a "debug" thing. In SM it was intentionally allowed, though I imagine players found ways to use it that they devs didn't expect i.e. murder beam ;) ) Since this hidden feature functions exactly the same way (heck that screenshot shows they have graphics for the later beams without ice in the game) I think it was originally intended to be there, but cut for some reason (with the code for it left intact).

JaggerG

2007-04-13 09:30:39 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

I think it's still a debug menu because they felt like they should test different areas using only certain items. It may have also been intended early on, but they decided to scrap it, because they decided there's no point.

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-13 09:34:22 pm

Why wouldn't there be? It would've been better as a result.

MetroidJunkie

2007-04-18 06:31:28 am

Quote from JaggerG:

IIRC there's a vid of Crocomire in a save room, but other than that, you're gonna have to sit until someone finds the code and posts it.

Because I could only find one of him in Kraid's room, I used Zero Fission to replace the save room with Crocomire and I uploaded it.

Blackdrake1

2007-04-26 08:37:50 pm

Ridley!

Oh yeah. I saw that one and it was so funny. Crocomire was attached to the back area of Kraid!

Zeke

2007-09-24 04:07:01 am

Time bomb set get out fast!

Been playing around with this and found something interesting. When you get the Varia, the "Behold the Varia Suit" animation plays, right? Open the debug menu, exit, and it'll play again. You can repeat this over and over. It doesn't matter what you do in the debug menu or whether you move around in the room; in fact, you can leave the room and come back, and this will still work. I think what makes it stop is collecting another major upgrade. I came back with the Power Grip and Ice Beam, and it didn't work anymore.

I bet this happens after the Chozo Test too. I can't think of any other items that come with animations after you collect them; too bad this isn't Mega Man X, where capsule upgrades always give you a quick demo. Obviously this isn't a glitch in the usual sense, but I think it's interesting anyway.