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Tahngarthor
2008-08-29 10:22:50 am
Bangaa Bishop
Those batteries are NOT proprietary, you might have to look at a jewelry store that has watch batteries in different sizes, or try a computer parts website likew newegg.com to find the right size.

That said, the older carts use the same RAM that stores the date and time on virtually all PCs. However, later carts used flash (NVRAM) memory that doesn't need the battery backup. This is more like the memory that carries the BIOS and setup program for your PC. This started happening during the life of the N64-Early N64 games used a battery, but later ones didn't have them anymore. I think Perfect Dark is one of the last ones that had a battery.

(someone correct me if i'm wrong here but i'm pretty sure about most of this)
Rofz
2008-10-05 01:36:25 am
I don't have any ROMs of course, but I thought that it was legal if you had a copy of the original game cartridge. That makes sense to me, because you've still paid for the game, so yeh.
Opium
2008-10-05 01:47:01 am
Quote from Rofz:
I don't have any ROMs of course, but I thought that it was legal if you had a copy of the original game cartridge. That makes sense to me, because you've still paid for the game, so yeh.


nintendo states clearly on their site that it is not legal to have a rom on your computer, regardless of whether or not you have purchased the game. 
Gamma_Metroid
2008-10-05 06:21:28 pm
Quote from Opium:
Quote from Rofz:
I don't have any ROMs of course, but I thought that it was legal if you had a copy of the original game cartridge. That makes sense to me, because you've still paid for the game, so yeh.


nintendo states clearly on their site that it is not legal to have a rom on your computer, regardless of whether or not you have purchased the game. 


Huh.  I thought it was okay to have it as long as you didn't distribute it, and you got rid of it if you lost/sold/etc. your game.
Zhs2
2008-10-05 06:38:31 pm
Yo.
Nintendo frowns on stuff like that in general. They say nix, nil, zilch, and nada on those backups, for fear of piracy itself. Watch your back if you do own backups or warez in general, k? Wink
arkarian
2008-10-05 07:43:41 pm
red chamber dream
It's not about what Nintendo says; the law clearly states that having any ROMs of commercial games that you did not rip yourself is illegal.
nate
2008-10-06 06:47:44 pm
it's really interesting to me how so few people realize that roms are illegal under any circumstances. people say that ignorance is bad for individual rights in a democracy but aren't more people using roms than would if they all knew it was so crazy illegal? i am increasingly convinced that in the future, everything will be illegal, but everyone will do whatever they want all the time.
arkarian
2008-10-06 09:43:12 pm
red chamber dream
So you can't rip a ROM yourself? I know they're illegal in every other circumstance, but I didn't know that.

But I guess it makes sense, as there's no way to tell if someone ripped it himself or not.
Opium
2008-10-07 01:12:52 am
I really think that the ripping of ROMS is very threatening to the future of all electronic media.  I also believe that Nintendo knows this, and it plays a major part in their newer games requiring hardware that forces you to at least buy their consoles:  wii has motion sensor controls, DS has touch-screen. 
TJF588
2008-10-07 06:02:59 am
once GameFAQs, now Twitch
I do support really old titles getting ripped for posterity, esp. if they aren't released otherwise.  Little Red Hood and "EarthBound Zero", for instance.

I wanna say PS stuff can be ripped yourself (I use Alcohol 52% for running my CD-ROM games off my comp; I'd imagine PS1 games can be done similarly), but I'm not certain on that firsthand.
Metroid Menace
2008-11-24 02:46:09 am
About the ROMs requiring special hardware such as touch screens and motion controls: Emulating the DS's touch controls is pretty simple with a mouse. Emulating motion controls for a Wii game is pretty easy too if you just have your emulator read input from the Wii controller itself (still, that forces piraters to at least by the controller, although it's relatively inexpensive).

To be more on topic though, my M2 cartridge battery is still working fine and I've had the game since it was first released.. but it'll be saddening when it finally dies out :(
Luna_Aran
2008-11-25 08:18:52 am
Super Metroid Addict
I'll cry a lot when mine dies... That's why I hope Nintendo makes a remake, and it has the original game unlocked in the end, like mzm ahd metroid. so i can play it and replay it several more times, while leaving the original MII:RoS GB cart in the box
Rofz
2009-01-25 07:43:43 pm
I was thinking, and does anyone think that maybe the cartridge battery lasts longer if the cartridge stay in the GB/GBC/GBA? Because all of those have their own source of power (the batteries). I was thinking, maybe while the pak is inside the machine, it uses the machine's battery to keep the RAM, and only resorts to the internal battery if taken out of the machine. Purely hypothetical thinking of course, but does anyone dis/agree with me, and why?
Gamma_Metroid
2009-01-25 07:54:34 pm
Why would it need to use power if it wasn't in the GB(C)/GBA?
Rofz
2009-01-25 11:05:25 pm
It cartridge has an internal battery to keep the RAM. It would need to use that battery either all the time or just when it is out of the Game Boy. I am wondering whether it is the second option.
JaggerG
2009-01-26 07:24:07 am
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
I think it uses the RAM constantly. There doesn't seem to be any reason for it to stop using it.
TJF588
2009-01-26 01:09:26 pm
once GameFAQs, now Twitch
He's asking if the RAM is either kept exclusively by the battery or mutually by the system when inserted and the battery when standalone.
Rofz
2009-01-26 05:55:54 pm
Yes, thank you for understanding my garble. I am wondering whether the cartridge battery will last longer if it is kept indefinately in a Game Boy with working AA batteries, than if it is left outside of the machine.
TJF588
2009-01-26 06:06:09 pm
once GameFAQs, now Twitch
We shall go back in time and change technology ever so slightly... LITHIUM-ION GAME PAK BATTERIES!
Rofz
2009-01-26 09:00:53 pm
Hehe... nice.
uNsane
2009-01-28 01:40:15 pm
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If we were going to go back in time to give technology to improve RoS lifespan, why not just give them FRAM?
TJF588
2009-01-28 05:38:07 pm
once GameFAQs, now Twitch
We don't want to alter things too much.  No telling WHAT we might nerf ourselves out of.
Baby Sheegoth
2009-03-10 11:09:26 pm
As has been stated, everything before GBA (and some GBA games, like ZM) use batteries to keep data stored. My oldass M2 is still fine.

On the other discussion, ROM's aren't hypothetically illegal, however is the ESA bust down you door and you have roms and don't own the carts/games, you're screwed. If you have the carts/games, they cannot charge you because you HAVE them, you are just using them on your computer. Also, lol esa.
tomatobob
2009-03-10 11:30:39 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from Baby Sheegoth:
On the other discussion, ROM's aren't hypothetically illegal, however is the ESA bust down you door and you have roms and don't own the carts/games, you're screwed. If you have the carts/games, they cannot charge you because you HAVE them, you are just using them on your computer. Also, lol esa.


I don't know where you heard that, but I would not rely on that source ever again.
Baby Sheegoth
2009-03-11 12:02:43 am
Right. Anyways, it is actually legal to own (most) roms if you have the original game, but you're still on rather shaky legal ground, but almost no courts will follow up if you have the original carts. I do know this because my parents are both officers and they deal with cases like these (slow days.. heh) a lot more than you think. Not many people get anything, and even then, it's people who can't prove they owned or had one at the time.