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detonator300
detonator300
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detonator300: 2007-12-20 01:24:48 am
2007-12-15 04:19:05 am
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I recently put this video in YouTube.



As you can see, staying in the very left end of the ladder during the whole battle makes security bot throw no bombs. I don't know is this a bug or a trick but at least it is easy way to beat it undamaged.

P.S. This works with battle #2 as well.
edit: i was wrong, it didn't work for battle #2, sorry Embarassed
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JaggerG
2007-12-15 04:33:30 am
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
That's actually pretty cool (assuming it is, in fact, effective on BOX2). It's clearly not a speed trick in this round, but I don't recall the latest strategy for the other. Still good for first timers. Not that it's necessarily a tough boss.
MASTER-88
MASTER-88
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MASTER-88: 2007-12-15 06:54:43 am
2007-12-15 06:51:29 am
Speedrunner
News to me.

But yeah. This is very slow and pointless way beat that easy boss.
detonator300
2007-12-15 08:50:50 am
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Quote from MASTER-88:
News to me.

But yeah. This is very slow and pointless way beat that easy boss.


But a good strategy for those who struggle to beat it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that there are those people too.
arkarian
2007-12-15 11:42:41 am
red chamber dream
Good find. Some people do struggle on the easier bosses, so that's definitely helpful for them.
UchihaSasuke
2007-12-15 03:26:30 pm
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
yep, one of the bosses where i died more often was this one.

i still don't have a fast strat for BOX 2. i'll need one when i decide to sub 1 hour.
rekameohs
2007-12-17 05:59:36 pm
Anywhere, everywhere
I always had trouble against that guy for some reason, but that helps.
MASTER-88
2007-12-18 06:20:22 am
Speedrunner
I really surprise how many peoples have trouble against BOX.

I don,t never have trouble against B.O.X. When i play this game first time i beat this boss my first attempt. grin new

Speedmethod is pretty hard first time, but when you play much this not too hard. I can beat that easily after 2 bomb throw sometimes after 1 bomb throw.

Mostly time i beat him without damages. I don,t really need that cheap way. Cheap ways make boss look borring

But if somebody find cheap way beat Yakuza, Nightmare and Ridley. THis probably give me motivations try 1% single segment run in future grin new

All three bosses took me deaths my 1% run.
JaggerG
2007-12-18 03:23:43 pm
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Let's see if I can remember these guys...hmm, for Yakuza, I can't help you there. You just have to damage him as much as possible before he goes into his spinny phase. For Nightmare, you can sometimes manipulate his final phase movement, and pass through his arms if you have a charge-spin. For Ridley, you can theoretically hit him so fast that he doesn't have a chance to get near you, but you can also space jump in the upper-left corner and shoot him from there, I'm told.

But still, they're not very much easier. :^(
P.JMan
2007-12-18 03:52:00 pm
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
Quote from JaggerG:
Yakuza, I can't help you there. You just have to damage him as much as possible before he goes into his spinny phase.

Yakuza always starts with 500 health when it goes into its spinny phase
BioSpark
2007-12-18 07:20:01 pm
Lol PJ, 500 health means nothing to most people in this topic. You could just say that it always is set to a fixed amount.
JaggerG
2007-12-19 12:18:42 am
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
O_o Really? Is it just that you can get him into deep red early and he still has the same health?
MASTER-88
2007-12-19 05:59:06 am
Speedrunner
This was joke. I don,t come try 1% SS run. laugh new

I know there is absolutely not cheap ways beat these 3 boss battles.

I check couple weeks ago that Ridley method in youtube. This was so nice find. But probably harder/slower than normal method IMO. I have little trouble shot charge and continued space jump.
detonator300
2007-12-19 06:59:36 am
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Quote from MASTER-88:
This was joke. I don,t come try 1% SS run. laugh new

I know there is absolutely not cheap ways beat these 3 boss battles.

I check couple weeks ago that Ridley method in youtube. This was so nice find. But probably harder/slower than normal method IMO. I have little trouble shot charge and continued space jump.

If you still need an easy way to deal quick damage on Yakuza, here are some methods to it:
1) Before the battle actually starts stand in the middle of the battlefield, jump and fire missiles straight up.
2) This requires some energy sacrifice but if it grabs you tap left and right on the d-pad to struggle free and Yakuza should open its mouth soon.

I found both of these methods from actual Metroid2002 site. I hope they help. :)
MASTER-88
2007-12-19 07:07:49 am
Speedrunner
Yeah i know both methods. Actually i not need help beat Yakuza laugh new

I mean if i go try 1% SS run (no save run minimal possible items) i need cheap way beat him, because normal method is bit random manipulation especially if you not use any save points.
JaggerG
2007-12-19 07:50:55 am
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Yeah, 1% is pretty simple (relative to other games' minimalist runs), but 1% single segment is crazy. It takes an hour and a half of endurance at least. Considering Yakuza is near the second half of the game, you can try it all day and never reach the Restricted Area. And although the current run on SDA is ridiculously cautious and not as fun to sit through, it's just amazing to see that there's a run entitled "Fusion 1%SS."
BioSpark
2007-12-19 10:57:28 am
Don't worry guys, there will be a better run soon enough. ;)

Also, the ridley method I use is the one where you fire charged shots with R in the corner, which I believe was already mentioned. I don't really have a strategy for yakuza and nightmare, just skill. :P
uNsane
uNsane
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uNsane: 2007-12-19 04:51:38 pm
2007-12-19 03:57:31 pm
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, for Yakuza, if you want to be safe, I just tend to sit in morph ball right in the corner or next to the flames, then come out and unmorph right underneath him. For Nightmare, I space jump counter-clockwise (?) around him after he moves away from the wall and R-charge him until he dies. So long as you keep a wide path, he shouldn't hit you. For Ridley, I don't really have a strategy; I just shoot him with charge beams from the ground and hope I don't die. It's surprisingly effective, but probably wouldn't work on 1%.

Edit: I forgot about Yakuza's second form...  Embarassed
JaggerG
2007-12-19 04:24:48 pm
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Quote from uNsane:
Well, for Yakuza, if you want to be safe, I just tend to sit in morph ball right in the corner or next to the flames, then come out and unmorph right underneath him.

That's a terrible strategy against him, actually. Maybe during the first form, but even then, it's not really necessary, and it takes you longer to get hits on him. His second phase is the real threat. NEVER go into morph ball during his second phase.

Actually, I forget if I've tried Pbombs against him there. >_>
MASTER-88
2007-12-20 06:47:14 am
Speedrunner
Yeah this sounds like hard.

Easiest Yakuza 1st form.  Try kill him 2-3 round. Caused enought damage before last hit. When you make last hit try make that as well you can. Boss 2nd form start with red color.

2nd form is harder. My method is i stand left or right corner room whole my fight. And i shot diagonal and vertical charge shots in his mouth. This time is random because sometimes boss jumps different height jumps. Normally this working 25% of the time, but yeah too risky use that 1% SS run IMO.

PS:
Pb:s doesn,t work against Yakuza. I remember i test that once.
P.JMan
2007-12-20 07:04:26 am
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
Quote from MASTER-88:
Boss 2nd form start with red color.


That's a bit much, Yakuza's health [glow=red,2,300]always[/glow] starts at half it's full health when it goes into it's second form. It doesn't matter what colour you make it turn, in fact, if you make it go red then that's just a waste of missiles
TJF588
2008-01-12 07:21:12 am
once GameFAQs, now Twitch
This is awesome to me.  I'm one who has turn-based RPGs at the top of his "games I'm good at" list, so in games like this I suck at reactions (especially since I press the buttons much too hard, as a result of the battle's tension on me).  I'm kinda stuck on BOX right now, and last nigh I had seen the speed tactic to blowing it up.  I'm not good at changing directions as I'm spinning about and bad at getting shots off in between, so it has been a matter of trying to get over him, holding R, holding down, hitting B, then running around like my ass is aflame when it hits me with a bomb (usually because I'm still trying to get the previous series of inputs in after it's opened up its top... which I reallyought'e not down, but again, the near-cramping of my fingers during the tension of battle).  This is a cheap method in a game that I have no desire to beat for time (since MZM has all the ending pics anyway), so maybe now (or later) can get rid of it like a bad Iron Clad in FFVIII (which, admittantly, I've not gotten far in in my many "LOLz optimize before Dollet" 'plays').

tl;dt (where second "t" = "type")*

*yeash, even my side notes are tl...
JaggerG
2008-01-12 08:13:18 am
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
psh, 100% under 2 hours is nothing. The hardest part is getting through the dialogue. :^P
TJF588
2008-01-13 05:21:33 am
once GameFAQs, now Twitch
Is that a slam against the script or a gripe against how it scrolls?  If the latter, I agree already.  Hold A, tap A, hold A...  That, and it seems like speeding the text along will cause cutscene images to flash up prematurely, perhaps even flash off faster than they oughta.  What a bother.
detonator300
2008-01-13 05:59:24 am
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Quote from TJF588:
This is awesome to me. This is a cheap method in a game that I have no desire to beat for time.

Thank you. :)
I forgot to mention earlier but as far as I know I'm the first one who found this... Or at least I haven't found any reports about this.