any% route possiblities using sw's

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bartendorsparky: 2009-06-10 05:58:57 pm

2009-06-10 05:49:39 pm

always move fast

alright thanks. guess it doesn't look like this will end up working, too bad. i'll still give it a whirl though and see if i can get anything.

maybe if you ran into torvus and grabbed super missiles and boost ball and then headed to sanc you could do something. or if you went early pb/supers/(maybe emerald)/boost/lower torvus chykka key/sanc. then you can go fight quadraxis right after grabbing screw attack, and the torvus sky key route is much better: chykka -> upper sky key -> wallcrawl to lower sky key -> sanc through bottom entrance -> etc.

Oliver

2009-06-10 08:17:51 pm

Good luck. I hope you will find something good.

There's one point I don't get : why the wallcrawl to lower sky key ?

Also, do you think spider should be grabbed on the first or second trip ? You have to pick it up anyway, so why not on the first trip ?

If you don't do the sanctuary entrance wallcrawl, you need seekers and dark visor, so obviously you need to fight Chykka first.

bartendorsparky

2009-06-10 10:05:43 pm

always move fast

the wallcrawl from upper torvus to lower torvus is faster than switching to light world and then back to dark.

you need boost to get spider, and the sky key after spider you need dark visor for, so it's probably best to wait until after chykka/boost to grab spider.

in the second route you enter sanc from the lower torvus door, so i think you don't need to worry about that.

Oliver

2009-06-11 07:43:54 am

Good points. I hadn't thought about that.
Also, the wallcrawl allows you to use floaty jump to fight PB guardian, otherwise you would lose it.

I might be wrong but I think you need gravity boost to reach the bomb slot in lower torvus to take the elevator to sanc.

bartendorsparky

2009-06-12 12:26:48 pm

always move fast

couldn't get into the secret world in anything close to a reasonable amount of time, so i guess the second route is best for now.

no idea if you need grav boost, but i imagine something could be done to get there without it.

Oliver

2009-06-12 12:40:34 pm

Did you manage to get into the SW in under 28 min ? I ask because I'd like to use a better method, even slightly faster.

Quote from bartendorsparky:

no idea if you need grav boost, but i imagine something could be done to get there without it.

There's still the SW way (the morph SW next to the save station).