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I'm testing all this and one thing that happened so far: If you go to Nettori early, when you get the x, it say that level one security locks are open, and you dont get the plasma beam.

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Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Well I was close.

It's been tested before. I'll try to find the link for you.

EDIT
Yeah, I just did that and got the level one hatches unlocked thing...  Yay, another trap in the game that can only be acheived by AR codes...  Shocked  Hey, the SA-X wasn't there...

So what are some other places we can find a trap using AR codes like Moon Jump, I wonder...
is there somthing similar to 'no target' coded anywhere in the game?
And how on earth can you "Skip Zazabi without moon jump"??
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And how on earth can you "Skip Zazabi without moon jump"??


which enemy is "Zazabi"?
One shall stand, one shall ball.
The High Jump boss iirc.
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
[insidejoke]But Zazabi is now known as WD-food[/insidejoke]
I just realized while fighting Nightmare that if you jump away and come back like instantaneously, you're higher on the ladder. If you can go forward, jump, back, and foward/jump again in like 4ish frames, you think you can actually gain height? Or do you just automatically grab the ladder the very frame you hold back?
*Shrugs*  I don't know.  But i found out the other day while fighting Nightmare this:  When he begins manipulating gravity, if you have the health to spare, stand directly under him and shoot straight up.  You'll take loads of damage, but he only takes three fully charged shots to get his face blown off.  And here I've been shooting diagnolly and it was taking forever because only one of the three Plasma bolts was hitting him...

Here's what I've been thinking:  If the secret message is viewed by skipping the Diffusion Missiles, but getting the Gravity Suit then talking to Adam...  What are some other parts of the game where you get two upgrades in a row without talking to Adam?  Maybe there's another secret message...  Something like getting back to a Navigation Room with the Wave Beam, but without the SA-X destroying the Restricted Lab...

The only one that came to mind was get Bombs, skip High Jump/Spring Ball...  But we already know that one...
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BioSpark: 2009-04-03 05:27:01 pm
They wouldn't put in another secret message into the game. Fusion killed sequence breaking so badly that even using cheats won't let you do anything, according to what I've found so far.
still...I tried to sb in Metroid Fusion with ar, beat archanus before missles. Same with Nettori:(
But that's cheating, so it doesn't count. You lose. Good day sir.
Hey, as far as I'm concerned, if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
直死の魔眼使い
Erm... Wouldn't that rather be "if you're cheating, you're not trying"? :P



Just felt like pointing that out. ;)
in the name of justice!
It really depends.  My mom always says "if you're not cheating, you're not trying to win" (though this is not in the context of card games that she likes to play but rather online computer games that my brothers always zazabi about).  But certainly if you don't include "win" then DZ's is true and the other is false.
What about getting out of the ice sector right after beating Nightmare?  And not going to release level four hatches?  Would be needed for that?
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What about getting out of the ice sector right after beating Nightmare?  And not going to release level four hatches?  Would be needed for that?
The ability to pass through breakaway blocks from below. Even if you did, it'd probably just give you the secret message and you'd have to go get the Diffusion Missiles anyway.
Have you realized if the secret message wasnt in the game, you could do the alternate secret message method to skip the diffusion missles?
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What about getting out of the ice sector right after beating Nightmare?  And not going to release level four hatches?  Would be needed for that?
The ability to pass through breakaway blocks from below. Even if you did, it'd probably just give you the secret message and you'd have to go get the Diffusion Missiles anyway.


No Screw Attack blocks, eh?

I should do a total AR run, and use it to bypass certain parts of the game, see what happens...  Except any time I ever turn Moon Jump on, the screen doesn't scroll at elevators... Evil or Very Mad
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
...then turn it off when you reach an elevator. Or is it permanently on? I remember the game genie let you hit a switch on it to turn it off.
I had a stroke of genius in one of my classes today... check it out (the last walljump was me not realizing I already made it):
http://www.metroid2002.com/ekarderif/boiler1.avi


Alas, the game continues to hate me. Mr. Bossdoor was there but Mr. Eyeguy was nowhere to be found (a side note, I play Japanese version so don't be scared of the text):
http://www.metroid2002.com/ekarderif/boiler3.avi

Still, it was funny to run through without seeing Mr. Bossdoor during the exploding sequence (and funny to watch my horrific Eyeguy battle):
http://www.metroid2002.com/ekarderif/boiler4.avi

Don't you guys give me that Fusion Guy thing again.

Edit: When I said I lost the segment, I meant that I lost it. Now that I found it, the video is whole once more.
always move fast
holy moly ek, way to be crazy and stuff.
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I had a stroke of genius in one of my classes today... check it out:
http://www.metroid2002.com/ekarderif/boiler1.avi
This was split up because I lost the middle part due to my stupidity. I think you can get enough info from the second video (the last walljump was me not realizing I already made it):
http://www.metroid2002.com/ekarderif/boiler2.avi

Alas, the game continues to hate me. Mr. Bossdoor was there but Mr. Eyeguy was nowhere to be found (a side note, I play Japanese version so don't be scared of the text):
http://www.metroid2002.com/ekarderif/boiler3.avi

Still, it was funny to run through without seeing Mr. Bossdoor during the exploding sequence (and funny to watch my horrific Eyeguy battle):
http://www.metroid2002.com/ekarderif/boiler4.avi

Don't you guys give me that Fusion Guy thing again.


WE'RE NOT WORTHY.....WE'RE NOT WORTHY!
Go Fusion Guy!
Armor Guardian
Wow! You are so cool!!
I'm not worthy!!!
I'm not worthy!!!