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DeathNoble
2005-10-30 12:31:08 pm
Everyone says that Fusion is unbreakable, and so far, that's held true.  Even with the early Power Bomb expansion not working.  But the other day, I thought maybe we should go for an upgrade that's absorbed (As opposed to downloaded or picking up an expansion beforehand)  But there was only one that stood out as possible that came to mind, and that was the Wide Beam.

It's none too difficult to go before the emergency, which is trigged by downloading the Ice Missiles.  Even without the Varia Suit, it's quite easy.  Except for one room that can't be gotten past.  This room:  http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/DeathNoble/Metroid%20Images/Thisroom.jpg.  I've got it one the map as well: http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/DeathNoble/Metroid%20Images/Thisroom2.jpg.

So far, its been a no-go with me.  I've managed to wall jump off the right wall, and scrape against the left outcropping, but never been good enough to walljump off of it.  So what I'm here asking is to see if one of the Fusion Gods *cough*Ekard*cough* can manage to do anything with this.  The rooms after the above mentioned room would be no problem.  Note that there is no possible way to get a shinespark there, unless I suck at Fusion that much...

Anybody that's super-good at Fusion want to see if they can do something about this room without the Ice Missile upgrade?  Or maybe find a similar room going to an absorbed upgrade that we could get past?  Any takers at all on this challenge?
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nate
2005-10-30 01:01:26 pm
this was the room where we tried to apply the zs wall jump (to hang on the right wall long enough to get hit by the alien head's projectile and thus get high enough on it to reach the alien). no one was skilled enough to zs wall jump long enough to do it, not even sess. i should note that, even if it's possible to get to the wide beam x boss early, the item you receive after beating it will not be the wide beam, and so it will probably remain only a curiosity, like the tro trap.
DeathNoble
2005-10-30 01:58:02 pm
Embarassed  Oh.  Well then, this topic was...  Embarassed

[quote="Author Message
njahnke"]i should note that, even if it's possible to get to the wide beam x boss early, the item you receive after beating it will not be the wide beam, and so it will probably remain only a curiosity, like the tro trap.[/quote]

Has someone with an AR or Gameshark tried that?  Like an always have shinespark code or something that would be useful enough to get there?  Still be interesting to see...

And you never know, maybe someday, someone will come along and be skilled enough to pull it off...

But alas, if this topic needs to be locked, then I rely on the Mods/Admins to put a lock where it needs to be...  You know...  If it has to be...
StarmanHaxor
2005-10-30 02:00:54 pm
Lock? Why? People could make some interesting contributions to this.

What about the jump extend. I cant tell because his picture is so messed up but can you jump extend to the top?
Lazylen
(user is banned)
2005-10-30 02:02:10 pm
what item would it then give you if it was manageable?

ice missiles (being the next item)?
DeathNoble
2005-10-30 03:09:54 pm
Sorry about the pics being suck-city.  All I have is an emulator with screen capture coupled with paint. Evil or Very Mad

But Yeah, people could make interesting contributions to here...

And that's what it sounded like when Nate said:
Quote from njahnke:
i should note that, even if it's possible to get to the wide beam x boss early, the item you receive after beating it will not be the wide beam, and so it will probably remain only a curiosity, like the tro trap.


Thus, why I said anybody with an AR that would make getting up there easy wants to get up there for us and show what happens...
LifeMega
2005-10-30 03:59:22 pm
I used the Moon Jump code to go there, and you'll never guess what I found. NOTHING! There was nothing in the Boiler Room. Another pointless attempt to SB Fusion.
mangadood
2005-10-30 04:01:37 pm
Too many fangirls to count
I might go turn on my DS and try that!
JaggerG
2005-10-30 04:13:39 pm
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
I still wanna get in there anyway.

How about the pad there? Can you blow up the ship that way?
LifeMega
2005-10-30 04:32:33 pm
No. The room state is the same as after the boiler incident.
Quadraxis203
2005-10-30 04:52:03 pm
Quote from DeathNoble:
Embarassed  Oh.  Well then, this topic was...  Embarassed

[quote="Author Message
njahnke"]i should note that, even if it's possible to get to the wide beam x boss early, the item you receive after beating it will not be the wide beam, and so it will probably remain only a curiosity, like the tro trap.


Has someone with an AR or Gameshark tried that?  Like an always have shinespark code or something that would be useful enough to get there?  Still be interesting to see...

And you never know, maybe someday, someone will come along and be skilled enough to pull it off...

But alas, if this topic needs to be locked, then I rely on the Mods/Admins to put a lock where it needs to be...  You know...  If it has to be...[/quote]show me the CODES!!!
Quadraxis203
2005-10-30 04:53:06 pm
Quote from LifeMega:
I used the Moon Jump code to go there, and you'll never guess what I found. NOTHING! There was nothing in the Boiler Room. Another pointless attempt to SB Fusion.
moon jump code?
LifeMega
2005-10-30 06:08:03 pm
Quadraxis, don't double post.
Later in this topic:
[Yoshi/Ark/TRH/Nate] LifeMega, don't mini mod.

Moon Jump:
86C1A619 E48FFEE4
C9DD1018 36B40DF8
arkarian
2005-10-30 06:15:18 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from LifeMega:
Quadraxis, don't double post.
Later in this topic:
[Yoshi/Ark/TRH/Nate] LifeMega, don't mini mod.

You don't seem to take things like this seriously. Do not mini-mod. This is a warning.

Quadraxis, just edit your first post if you have something else to add - there's no need to make two posts in a row.
BioSpark
2005-10-30 06:38:35 pm
Quote from LifeMega:
Moon Jump:
86C1A619 E48FFEE4
C9DD1018 36B40DF8

OMG this is cool! Where did you find this?
DeathNoble
2005-10-30 06:49:33 pm
I hate it when people mini-mod my dating service...  Totally takes away from my purpose of being there...  Grinds my nerves; I can understand how mods here can quickly become angered by it...  [/random comment]

Anyways, LifeMega:  There was nothing there?  That's disappointing.  Again, probably more proof that Fusion can't be broken.  Man, everytime we think we've gotten them...  Wjhat about with an AR code that gives you Ice Missiles...  Try putting in that code then going there, see if the boiler room is still empty before you actually download the Ice Missile data.  That is, of course, if there is an AR code to give you Ice Missiles...
arkarian
2005-10-30 06:55:08 pm
red chamber dream
Quote from The Dark Knight:
Quote from LifeMega:
Moon Jump:
86C1A619 E48FFEE4
C9DD1018 36B40DF8

OMG this is cool! Where did you find this?

Probably at GameFAQS or something of the like. AR codes are very easy to find on the 'net.
Chanoire
2005-10-30 06:58:50 pm
Quote from Arkarian:
Quote from The Dark Knight:
Quote from LifeMega:
Moon Jump:
86C1A619 E48FFEE4
C9DD1018 36B40DF8

OMG this is cool! Where did you find this?

Probably at [url=http:/www.gamefaqs.com]GameFAQS[/url] or something of the like. AR codes are very easy to find on the 'net.

Almost as easy as BBCodes are to find in Arkarian's posts.

:o
JaggerG
2005-10-30 07:10:39 pm
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
*http://*

sorry, had to. -_-
arkarian
2005-10-30 07:16:26 pm
red chamber dream
Thanks. It's amazing how forgetting one little slash can screw up an entire post. >_>

Chanoire: touche.
LifeMega
2005-10-30 07:47:28 pm
I found it at GSCentral. And I doubt just giving yourself the Ice Missiles would do it. The Boiler scenario is event triggered, the event is downloading the Ice Missiles. Fusion is very solidly built against SBing, and I doubt there are any major item skips/wrong orders. Unless someone finds something like the 0% trick for a major item.
DeathNoble
2005-10-30 07:54:35 pm
Perhaps with Moon Jump, you could skip the High Jump?  Or does Adam keep the door locked until you get it?  Since the objective is to download the Bomb Data...  Then to get out...

And then perhaps with moon jump, you could easily skip Space Jump?  Negating the TRO trap can't be that hard with Moon Jump...  That is, unless Adam locks another door or something...
BioSpark
2005-10-30 08:48:01 pm
I'm trying this, but I also want to know the code that gives you shinespark all the time. What is the code?
JaggerG
2005-10-30 09:33:18 pm
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
tro trap and skipping zazabi have been done with moon jump. Adam does indeed lock the doors in the case of not having high jump, but red doors unlock in the case of beating nettori before yakuza.
SamuraiSamus
2005-10-30 11:25:09 pm
Beware: off duty ninja
Quote from DeathNoble:
Perhaps with Moon Jump, you could skip the High Jump?  Or does Adam keep the door locked until you get it?  Since the objective is to download the Bomb Data...  Then to get out...

And then perhaps with moon jump, you could easily skip Space Jump?  Negating the TRO trap can't be that hard with Moon Jump...  That is, unless Adam locks another door or something...


well fusion's programming probably wouldn't allow that to happen at all from what I understand about how fusion works on a software level (learned why fusion was mean from nate's post in the fusion section somewhere and a little wiki search)