15% run items

2004-05-14 10:22:08 pm

What other items should i get? currently i have the folllowing:
long beam
ice beam
1 missile tank
morph ball
morph ball bombs
varia suit
plasma beam (unknown)
power grip
1 energy tank

Thats all and i am on normal. Any tips?

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ajbolt89

2004-05-14 10:43:07 pm

lol no way

Uhm... read the other topic about this same thing?

the don killuminati

2004-05-14 11:29:57 pm

Quote from ajbolt89:

Uhm... read the other topic about this same thing?

We are collecting completely different items and have completely different questions.

professor_scissors

2004-05-14 11:45:36 pm

Quote from The Don Killuminati:

What other items should i get? currently i have the folllowing:
long beam
ice beam
1 missile tank
morph ball
morph ball bombs
varia suit
plasma beam (unknown)
power grip
1 energy tank

Thats all and i am on normal. Any tips?

Next time, skip Long Beam. That gives you 7% more to play with... I'd go with 3 super missiles, screw attack, hi-jump, and the other 2 unknowns. However, most people seem to prefer Speed Booster over hi-jump.

skynes

2004-05-15 12:47:56 pm

I got 3 energy tanks, 2 super missiles and screw attack. Since I mastered IBJ and Wall jumping I dont need the high jump. Speed booster is only useful for the two escapes but if you're good enough you can still get out with a while to spare.

tomatobob

2004-05-15 03:12:29 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

I gaot the same as skynes, but got high jump instead of SA, I suck at the Tourian escape.

JaggerG

2004-05-15 06:31:25 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Ah, the escape. And By the way, I only took speed boost because I was doing a speed run. High jump is probably only useful in a hard 15% run on Tourian escape (allows for a few more screw ups while bomb jumping). Actually, now that I think about it, if you can't wall jump effectively, what makes you think you're gonna do the IBJ within the time limit? I have a great route through the first shaft, up the left wall, where you can just scramble up the first few blocks, wall jump off a couple of blocks, wall jump up the left wall, land on a block, wall jump off the block in the middle and grab onto the frickin' left road block, wall jump up some more, I think one more road block, wall jump some more and you're there, then you can get out with 15 second to IBJ over the speed blocks.

EDIT: By the way, tomatobob, thanks for removing that sig.

beach__master

2004-05-15 06:37:17 pm

Long Beam is good if you prefer sniping enemies to dodging them. On normal, nigh jump is not needed on tourian escape, i once escaped w/ 1:10 left, SA is good for the mother ship escape, though. I always take 3 e-tanks, 2 supers, and the long beam, because im just so fond of blasting helpless enemies at range. Twisted Evil

JaggerG

2004-05-15 06:51:48 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Quote from beach__master:

Long Beam is good if you prefer sniping enemies to dodging them.

Well, the ice beam does pretty well in helping you not get hit. Besides, if you suck at dodging things, how could you have defeated any bosses? You'd definitely need the practice, and that's what the regular enemies are there for.

Quote from beachmaster:

On normal, nigh jump is not needed on tourian escape, i once escaped w/ 1:10 left

That implies that on hard, it is needed. Well, on normal, you get 2 minutes, on hard, you get 1 minute. This means if you leave with over one minute on the clock on normal, than you'll definitely get out in time on hard. The first shaft only takes me 20 seconds, the next Gamma shaped shaft takes me 25 seconds, and I get out with, like, 7.5 seconds. I kept messing up the infinite bomb jump, too.

Now that I'm doing speed runs, I seem to be screwing up the IBJ more and more frequently, only succesfully going three bombs high once every ten tries. I seem to have lost my rhythm.

[quote="beach__master"]Long Beam is good if you prefer sniping enemies to dodging them. [/quote]
Well, the ice beam does pretty well in helping you not get hit. Besides, if you suck at dodging things, how could you have defeated any bosses? You'd definitely need the practice, and that's what the regular enemies are there for.

[quote="beachmaster"]On normal, nigh jump is not needed on tourian escape, i once escaped w/ 1:10 left[/quote]
That implies that on hard, it is needed. Well, on normal, you get 2 minutes, on hard, you get 1 minute. This means if you leave with over one minute on the clock on normal, than you'll definitely get out in time on hard. The first shaft only takes me 20 seconds, the next Gamma shaped shaft takes me 25 seconds, and I get out with, like, 7.5 seconds. I kept messing up the infinite bomb jump, too.

Now that I'm doing speed runs, I seem to be screwing up the IBJ more and more frequently, only succesfully going three bombs high once every ten tries. I seem to have lost my rhythm.

beach__master

2004-05-15 07:09:53 pm

Oops. I didnt know we were talking hard mode specifically. Sorry. I... still havent done a hard 15%, so i have no opinion yet.. :?

Edit #1: I used the wussy method to beat ridley on 15%, and died about 10+ times on MB, more then 20 on MR beta version Evil or Very Mad

, so im obviously terrible at dodging, which is why i like the long beam soooo much! Twisted Evil

*dashes to basement lair to play MP*

tomatobob

2004-05-16 02:04:31 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from JaggerG:

Ah, the escape. And By the way, I only took speed boost because I was doing a speed run. High jump is probably only useful in a hard 15% run on Tourian escape (allows for a few more screw ups while bomb jumping). Actually, now that I think about it, if you can't wall jump effectively, what makes you think you're gonna do the IBJ within the time limit? I have a great route through the first shaft, up the left wall, where you can just scramble up the first few blocks, wall jump off a couple of blocks, wall jump up the left wall, land on a block, wall jump off the block in the middle and grab onto the frickin' left road block, wall jump up some more, I think one more road block, wall jump some more and you're there, then you can get out with 15 second to IBJ over the speed blocks.

EDIT: By the way, tomatobob, thanks for removing that sig.

No problem about the sig, it was more of an experiment than any thing else. and as for the escape it's not the wall jumping that I have the problem on, it's more the screwing up and missing the block entirely and falling all the way down the shaft again that I some how manage to pull off repeatedly.

[quote="JaggerG"]Ah, the escape. And By the way, I only took speed boost because I was doing a speed run. High jump is probably only useful in a hard 15% run on Tourian escape (allows for a few more screw ups while bomb jumping). Actually, now that I think about it, if you can't wall jump effectively, what makes you think you're gonna do the IBJ within the time limit? I have a great route through the first shaft, up the left wall, where you can just scramble up the first few blocks, wall jump off a couple of blocks, wall jump up the left wall, land on a block, wall jump off the block in the middle and grab onto the frickin' left road block, wall jump up some more, I think one more road block, wall jump some more and you're there, then you can get out with 15 second to IBJ over the speed blocks.

EDIT: By the way, tomatobob, thanks for removing that sig.[/quote]

No problem about the sig, it was more of an experiment than any thing else. and as for the escape it's not the wall jumping that I have the problem on, it's more the screwing up and missing the block entirely and falling all the way down the shaft again that I some how manage to pull off repeatedly.

the don killuminati

2004-05-16 10:36:33 pm

Ok i have a problem, i had to restart today after accdentally getting a missile tank in Ridley. Could some one tell me how to avoid it? Heres my cheep rendition of how the room looks:

__________
| | |
| | |
| M | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | __________ |

The M is the tank, sorry for the bad drawing i can get into paint.

Edit: Well the ASCII art didnt work out so ignore that thing up there^^

I aM A mAnO

2004-05-16 10:43:53 pm

I'm pretty sure i know the one you're talking about. Go back up and to the right, you can't get past it that way, theres another path you need to find but it's been awhile so i'm a bit fuzzy. You can find it though.

professor_scissors

2004-05-16 11:18:37 pm

From the elevator, go right instead of left, then fire a missile at the cieling to open a hole in it. bomb jump up, and there you go.

DominicanZero

2004-05-17 07:37:15 am

直死の魔眼使い

Quote from the don killuminati:

Edit: Well the ASCII art didnt work out so ignore that thing up there^^

Did you mean this by any chance?

Code:

__________            
|                   |      | 
|                   |      | 
|            M      |      | 
|           | |     |      | 
|           | |            | 
|           | |            | 
|           | | __________ |

the don killuminati

2004-05-17 09:22:34 pm

Why yes, how did you do that? Shocked

JaggerG

2004-05-17 09:27:34 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Why, magic of course. Okay, i don't know.

DominicanZero

2004-05-17 10:54:46 pm

直死の魔眼使い

I did the map in Notepad using a fixed width font, then copied it here and enclosed it into code tags. They make the text inside them become a fixed width font and don't trim any extra spacing used inside them. Hope this was a clear enough explanation. ^_^

the don killuminati

2004-05-18 06:24:37 pm

Oh cool, well does anyone know how do get by that missile tank up there?

ajbolt89

2004-05-18 06:43:51 pm

lol no way

You don't have to go that direction at all. When you very first enter Ridley, go into the right door, then shoot a missile at the second block on the cieling. Then shoot a normal beam into the hole, and freeze one of the little bees from the tube and hop up there. This allows you to skip like 80% of Ridley.

savage-monkey

2004-05-21 04:05:59 pm

I am trying to do a 15 % run. so far I have

long beam
ice beam
1 energy tank
1 missile exp.
1 super missile.
I skipped speed booste but then how in the blue sr388 do I get out of ridley after beating him?

Yoshi348

2004-05-21 08:21:44 pm

PAGE BREAKER

Ready and willing.

Quote from savage-monkey:

I skipped speed booste but then how in the blue sr388 do I get out of ridley after beating him?

Same way you got in. Really.

Xin

2004-05-21 08:58:16 pm

Quote from Yoshi348:

Quote from savage-monkey:

I skipped speed booste but then how in the blue sr388 do I get out of ridley after beating him?

Same way you got in. Really.

Aw man, you wasted your 1000th post :S.

and savage-monkey, what/where do you mean?

ajbolt89

2004-05-21 09:19:01 pm

lol no way

..wow... 1000 is SO many posts. AHH.

the don killuminati

2004-05-21 09:24:31 pm

I will probalyy be out of college before i get to 1000. How pathetic. Embarassed