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ryu: 2010-09-11 06:40:12 am

2010-09-11 06:39:58 am

just as useless as high graphic processing power (porn aside)

you'll be "WOAH COOL" at first, but once you're genuinely used to it it won't matter anymore.

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2010-09-11 02:39:04 pm

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

EDIT: owait nvm

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2010-09-11 03:09:03 pm

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Quote from ryu:

you'll be "WOAH COOL" at first, but once you're genuinely used to it it won't matter anymore.

well that's what happens with all technology. everyone takes color tv for granted now. but at one point it was novel and exciting. once everything has been in 3d for years it won't matter anymore either.

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Ntsc: 2010-09-29 06:59:05 pm

2010-09-29 06:58:43 pm

3d requiring glasses is a gimmick. It'll die off and everyone will laugh at how terrible it was and how much it reminded them of using the blue/red 3d glasses.

It is honestly just a ploy by the tv manufactures to keep prices inflated in a crappy economy. Prices for TVs haven't dropped in a while and it is because instead of releasing cheaper standard LCD screens companies simply want to push tvs with "more features" (like Tru-shit-motion, 240 hz, 3d technology). All crap that doesn't cost very much to implement but they can charge the same prices that an LCD cost 3 years ago for.

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2010-09-29 07:02:13 pm

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

Have you actually seen those TV's with the 120hz and 240hz though? It's amazing, next time I buy a monitor (which may not be for awhile anyway) I'll probably go for something with a really high refresh rate.

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UchihaSasuke

2010-10-04 01:16:35 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

i have to wear glasses normally so 3D is a big no-no for me until the 3DS comes out.

i watched Avatar in 3D and i swore i would never watch any other 3D movie until the glasses are gone. nose pain, headache, dizzyness. might as well flip over my car in the highway at 100km/h if i want to feel like that and for free.

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2010-10-10 09:10:00 pm

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In closing, or in short for those that didn't read the waffle: Is this already the beginning of the end for current 3D TVs, as they'll soon be superceded, or do you reckon it'll swing another way?

The current 3D stuff without glasses they present has a limitation. It is a bit like making somethng invisible. It only works from one perspective. A game-boy is usually used by one person so it is ok but who wants to enjoy a cinematic 3D-movie alone?

I tested 3D-games already but believe me, it was terrible, just a bit better than the Avatar-movie(a fully rendered movies like Beowulf can make this job better). The picture was unclean, less detailed, washed out, but it was not that 3D I expected. And here is the challenge. I want to see some things in front of the screen and not behind it. Everything was behind the screen. It only made the things a bit more volumetric.

In games there is a problem with 3D in this regard because games are dynamic content. So it is difficult to generate a result that creates the depth in front of the screen, simply because in a game you never know a priory what game-frames will show up. They depend on the way you play. In a movie all the frames are known and the 3D-effects can be precalculated.

Currently we are just children playing with something that is new. We only make child-steps in this 3D-gaming-technology. Don't expect first 3D games to be amazing. I am interested how Crysis2 will do the job compared to others but it is possibly a long time we see something satisfying at homes so it makes sense just to forget that thing at the moment.

[quote="Quietus"]In closing, or in short for those that didn't read the waffle: Is this already the beginning of the end for current 3D TVs, as they'll soon be superceded, or do you reckon it'll swing another way?[/quote]
The current 3D stuff without glasses they present has a limitation. It is a bit like making somethng invisible. It only works from one perspective. A game-boy is usually used by one person so it is ok but who wants to enjoy a cinematic 3D-movie alone?

I tested 3D-games already but believe me, it was terrible, just a bit better than the Avatar-movie(a fully rendered movies like Beowulf can make this job better). The picture was unclean, less detailed, washed out, but it was not that 3D I expected. And here is the challenge. I want to see some things in front of the screen and not behind it. Everything was behind the screen. It only made the things a bit more volumetric.

In games there is a problem with 3D in this regard because games are dynamic content. So it is difficult to generate a result that creates the depth in front of the screen, simply because in a game you never know a priory what game-frames will show up. They depend on the way you play. In a movie all the frames are known and the 3D-effects can be precalculated.

Currently we are just children playing with something that is new. We only make child-steps in this 3D-gaming-technology. Don't expect first 3D games to be amazing. I am interested how Crysis2 will do the job compared to others but it is possibly a long time we see something satisfying at homes so it makes sense just to forget that thing at the moment.

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2010-10-25 11:43:53 pm

Time bomb set get out fast!

I dunno about 3D games, but as for TV and movies, I think it's pretty hilarious that the technology has barely changed in 50 years. We're still stuck with the same goofy red/blue glasses they had in the 60s. They always make me think of Bots Master, a cartoon show that was on when I was a kid. It had 3D fight sequences you could wear glasses for, signaled by the hero shouting "Laser time!" (It was a pretty campy show, and I never even wore the glasses... but I still remember that rap theme perfectly. Watch it and count how many franchises get ripped off!)

I saw Toy Story 3 in 3D, and the effect was pretty neat, but not really wow-level. I'm currently debating whether to see Saw 3D in 3D or not. The creators say it's a vital part of the experience (hence 3D replacing VII in the title), but that's what they would say.

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2010-10-25 11:53:23 pm

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

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We're still stuck with the same goofy red/blue glasses they had in the 60s.

haha no we aren't, we got those polarized ones and stuff. Have you been to the 3D Imax theaters lately? :P

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2010-10-25 11:55:19 pm

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saw 3d was shot in 3d so i'll definitely be seeing it as such. what i avoid are movies that are converted to 3d after being shot (ie most "3d" movies out there atm).

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2010-10-26 12:10:45 am

Time bomb set get out fast!

Poision: That's why I said "barely". Okay, so they're not one red, one blue anymore, but it's the same principle -- each lens lets in half the image.

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2010-10-26 12:12:41 am

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

well no, they're a LOT better than those. With red and blue glasses you only get to see in two different colors. With the new glasses you can see in full color. Two colors vs unlimited is a pretty huge step imo

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2010-10-26 12:13:02 am

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3ds is the way to go

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2010-10-26 07:58:37 am

Heh, yeah, now we just need to apply that concept to our TVs and movie screens, right? Of course, making our eyes adjust to seeing two HUGE screens on top of each other like with the 3DS is another story, but you get the idea.

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2010-10-26 08:14:48 am

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don't think it will be much different from "making our eyes adjust" to anything else. i'm sure people thought adapting television and computer monitors would be tough too.

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2010-10-26 09:25:20 am

Servin' you realness!!

Wait...the 3DS doesn't require glasses, does it? Has anyone actually seen this technology yet? Does it look weird at first, requiring you to adjust your vision so that it comes in 3D?

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2010-10-26 10:12:05 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Having read about it, it displays lines of alternating colour, aiming red one side, and blue the other, so that you eyes each pick up one colour, so it's the same as the glasses, but without them. As for actually 'seeing' it, no.

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2010-10-26 10:53:54 am

Well, I couldn't remember the specifics of how the 3DS worked, so I was taking a stab in the dark with my last comment. After hearing that, I doubt it would be difficult to adapt that setup on TVs or monitors. But until any of us see it in action I couldn't be certain of how well it works. From what I remember hearing from all of the gaming news sites around E3 though, it sounds like it's a great system because they were all praising it.

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2010-10-26 11:51:27 am

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...praising it...

the only drawback was that you had to view the screen from a certain point and your friend couldn't look on while you played unless you had the 3d slider all the way down.

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2010-10-26 11:52:47 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I think the idea of a friend looking on is not really a priority as far as design goes, and is rare enough in reality that I don't think anybody would really mind.

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2010-10-26 11:57:03 am

The flesh is spongy and bruised

I hate people looking over your shoulder with handhelds. Having younger siblings, I've had enough of that, and this is actually a decent way of controlling when people can actually see what I'm doing.

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Poision Envy

2010-10-26 07:49:30 pm

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

I had a dream I was playing with a 3DS the other nigt (in the dream it was just a normal DS lite with a 3D screen). In the dream the 3D was really awesome, wonder how accurate it was :V

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2010-11-30 02:13:13 am

Once autostereoscopic TVs cost less than 25 grand, I might think about it. Does anyone know if the current 3D TVs have the option of being in 3D or not?