wavebuster before wave - 21% adventure

view all posts by Andrew Mills

2010-01-28 11:09:50 pm

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it seems like everything we think of runs right into a brick wall, but i'm still interesting in trying stuff.

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Andrew Mills

2010-02-06 12:33:25 pm

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I remember a time when using secret worlds for anything wasn't even considered. Now they're all that's left.

It was around the same time you slated them for being useless I believe... Wink

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2010-02-06 12:58:26 pm

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they still are useless, except for novelty. :P

Paraxade:

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2010-02-06 01:11:00 pm

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finally, i jumped randomly from the top of the door, straight up, and tol appeared. i don't have a vid of this because of how sudden it happened

I could've told you you could do that :P Usually walking onto the other secretized door and jumping transitions you to the next room in Prime 1. It's a lot easier and more consistent than most other methods. Additionally, rather than floating up for an hour you could've tried aether jumping... it's a lot harder in prime 1 since if you mess up you can't strafe back, but that shouldn't be much of a problem if you can set yourself up in a corner, if you get what I mean (prolly not).

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I remember a time when using secret worlds for anything wasn't even considered. Now they're all that's left.

I don't see all the anti-SW bias, personally, but eh.

Random other idea if you're still looking for ways to skip Varia: try going into the Burning Trail SW and going over to where you start taking heat damage, and see if being out of bounds and far enough from the level prevents you from taking damage. I think it starts hurting you based on which room you're in so I don't think this'll work, but meh, something to try. alternately... try infinite speed bugging the wave beam doors. have fun trying to navigate magmoor with a busted arm cannon and absolutely no visibility, though...

also - using the back entrance to Magmoor from the mines just won't work, unless you've got a way to get into a SW in the elevator room. There are tons of wave doors near the start of the mines.

[quote="arkarian"]finally, i jumped randomly from the top of the door, straight up, and tol appeared. i don't have a vid of this because of how sudden it happened[/quote]

I could've told you you could do that :P Usually walking onto the other secretized door and jumping transitions you to the next room in Prime 1. It's a lot easier and more consistent than most other methods. Additionally, rather than floating up for an hour you could've tried aether jumping... it's a lot harder in prime 1 since if you mess up you can't strafe back, but that shouldn't be much of a problem if you can set yourself up in a corner, if you get what I mean (prolly not).

[quote="Toozin"]I remember a time when using secret worlds for anything wasn't even considered. Now they're all that's left.[/quote]

I don't see all the anti-SW bias, personally, but eh.

Random other idea if you're still looking for ways to skip Varia: try going into the Burning Trail SW and going over to where you start taking heat damage, and see if being out of bounds and far enough from the level prevents you from taking damage. I think it starts hurting you based on which room you're in so I don't think this'll work, but meh, something to try. alternately... try [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL6BWOzbVZI]infinite speed bugging the wave beam doors[/url]. have fun trying to navigate magmoor with a busted arm cannon and absolutely no visibility, though...

also - using the back entrance to Magmoor from the mines just won't work, unless you've got a way to get into a SW in the elevator room. There are tons of wave doors near the start of the mines.

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2010-02-06 01:19:46 pm

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Quote from arkarian:

finally, i jumped randomly from the top of the door, straight up, and tol appeared. i don't have a vid of this because of how sudden it happened

I could've told you you could do that :P Usually walking onto the other secretized door and jumping transitions you to the next room in Prime 1.

i know that. it's the method i use to load every room. however, tower of light is notorious for being an incredibly difficult room to load; it won't load every time like most others. i jumped on the door probably hundreds of times before it finally loaded.

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Additionally, rather than floating up for an hour you could've tried aether jumping...

djgrenola mentioned that, but i didn't feel like learning to aether jump (particularly because it's harder in prime), and floating is incredibly easy. i just did something else for an hour.

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I don't see all the anti-SW bias, personally, but eh.

you weren't around at the time.

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Random other idea if you're still looking for ways to skip Varia: try going into the Burning Trail SW and going over to where you start taking heat damage, and see if being out of bounds and far enough from the level prevents you from taking damage. I think it starts hurting you based on which room you're in so I don't think this'll work

you're right about the last part: the heat damage is caused by the name of the room that the map says you're in, whether or not you're actually in or anywhere close to that room. people have tried the burning trail sw before and haven't had any luck, but it's something i'd still like to play around with when i get the time.

[quote="Paraxade"][quote="arkarian"]finally, i jumped randomly from the top of the door, straight up, and tol appeared. i don't have a vid of this because of how sudden it happened[/quote]
I could've told you you could do that :P Usually walking onto the other secretized door and jumping transitions you to the next room in Prime 1.[/quote]
i know that. it's the method i use to load every room. however, tower of light is notorious for being an incredibly difficult room to load; it won't load every time like most others. i jumped on the door probably hundreds of times before it finally loaded.

[quote="Paraxade"]Additionally, rather than floating up for an hour you could've tried aether jumping...[/quote]
djgrenola mentioned that, but i didn't feel like learning to aether jump (particularly because it's harder in prime), and floating is incredibly easy. i just did something else for an hour.

[quote="Paraxade"]I don't see all the anti-SW bias, personally, but eh.[/quote]
you weren't around at the time.

[quote="Paraxade"]Random other idea if you're still looking for ways to skip Varia: try going into the Burning Trail SW and going over to where you start taking heat damage, and see if being out of bounds and far enough from the level prevents you from taking damage. I think it starts hurting you based on which room you're in so I don't think this'll work[/quote]
you're right about the last part: the heat damage is caused by the name of the room that the map says you're in, whether or not you're actually in or anywhere close to that room. people have tried the burning trail sw before and haven't had any luck, but it's something i'd still like to play around with when i get the time.

Paraxade:

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2010-02-06 01:32:42 pm

*shrugs* I just gave it a shot and managed to transition into ToL without shooting the wave door pretty easy, didn't take more than a couple minutes.

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2010-02-06 01:55:11 pm

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did you have wave?

Paraxade:

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2010-02-06 01:55:56 pm

had it, never used it.

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view all posts by Pot O Gold

2010-02-06 01:57:19 pm

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dunno then. seems like it was easier for me to load tol when i had wave too.

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Pot O Gold

2010-02-07 03:02:03 am

I have been thinking about this alot. Is it possible to get to Morph Ball Bombs without Missiles? I mean, get in the secret world in the first room in Chozo Ruins, I think its Main Quarry..? Anyway, get in that Secret World, and wallcrawl all the way there. Maybe this could get us Morph Ball. That would drop a percent. Has anyone tested this?

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2010-02-07 03:20:17 am

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dunno then. seems like it was easier for me to load tol when i had wave too.

I've recently done it on a file that didn't have wave, it doesn't make any difference... I found it easy both ways so not sure why you had trouble with it :/

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I have been thinking about this alot. Is it possible to get to Morph Ball Bombs without Missiles? I mean, get in the secret world in the first room in Chozo Ruins, I think its Main Quarry..? Anyway, get in that Secret World, and wallcrawl all the way there. Maybe this could get us Morph Ball. That would drop a percent. Has anyone tested this?

main quarry is phazon mines, the chozo ruins room is main plaza. bombs without morph ball has been attempted before, IIRC nobody was ever able to figure out how to get Burn Dome to load so you get stuck there. :/

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2010-02-07 03:20:44 am

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you're using the 0-00 version?

Paraxade:

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2010-02-07 03:24:20 am

yes, it's 0-00.

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view all posts by Pot O Gold

2010-02-07 03:26:22 am

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dunno then.

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Pot O Gold

2010-02-07 03:28:53 am

Hmm...I might attempt it. I haven't played Prime 1 in like 3 months.

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view all posts by tomatobob

2010-02-07 03:45:05 am

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it's a waste of time :P

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2010-02-07 05:53:49 am

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Just wanted to save this moment for posterity.
welcome back random avatars. :3

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2010-02-07 09:19:26 am

Quote from Pot O Gold:

I have been thinking about this alot. Is it possible to get to Morph Ball Bombs without Missiles? I mean, get in the secret world in the first room in Chozo Ruins, I think its Main Quarry..? Anyway, get in that Secret World, and wallcrawl all the way there. Maybe this could get us Morph Ball. That would drop a percent. Has anyone tested this?

You start off morphed, but then you can't morph again.

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they still are useless, except for novelty. :P

whuddup banks

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KnopeX: 2010-02-12 06:37:49 am

2010-02-12 06:33:23 am

I did this SW already, but i got a Black Screen of Death (BSoD) if i entered the high room with the WB. :s
(This was done on GCN, Metroid Prime Players Choice PAL vers.)

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