Speed tricks topic

AngerFist:

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AngerFist

2008-02-03 03:18:20 pm

Quote from craztad:

Im not sure what you are meaning at 1:43 to 1:46.

At 1:43 and 1:46, you lose a fraction of your momentum when you bump into those mini creatures and thats why I asked if it would be a touch faster to jump over them.

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recit0

2008-02-04 05:45:32 pm

I did it but can be faster.

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craztad: 2008-02-04 10:11:10 pm

2008-02-04 10:08:43 pm

kyupi+yakisoba=win

Thats really good recit0. And DJGrenola you said that if you boost off the end of the platform in this room it was faster. It just hit me but i guess you are meaning the second pass through here when we have boost and usually dash off a puffer or turrent(or both depending on who you are). I can't figure out where exactly you are boosting to. A vid would be nice but a good explanation will do.

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DJGrenola

2008-02-05 12:11:36 am

urmom

Coming in from the piston / etank room, you do one boost off the walkway edge and land on the rock below where the turrets are, then one or more boosts across this section towards the door. If you boost off the rock platform and unmorph late you can cross the lava and unmorph in front of the door IIRC. The downside is the turret usually hits you. I did have a vid from when I timed it, I'll see if I can find it (although I botched the vid slightly by messing up the boost off the walkway -- still seemed a little faster than what sparks did though, maybe half a second).

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craztad

2008-02-05 12:40:11 am

kyupi+yakisoba=win

Ok im assuming you are hopping off the right side. But i got one more thing to add for this room, when you come in for the artifact i guess i never understood why people kill the turrent when they first enter the room when it can be an easy combat dash over to the puffer dash and i think it looks cool when connecting the two back to back.

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DJGrenola

2008-02-05 11:23:00 am

urmom

found it

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/mstation.mp4

like I said, the first boost isn't so clever, but that's the general idea.

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Gu3st

2008-02-05 03:14:54 pm

Jagger ftw

i discovered a easier way to gain the same hights as tbj,hbj,ubj (they all pretty much the same for me..).. i was bombing randomly in phendrana drifts, i dunno how i did it but iirc, i wasted a bomb, then i did something like a dbj, but it got me the same hight as ubj... i dunno if i can redo it but its true.

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craztad

2008-02-05 03:51:30 pm

kyupi+yakisoba=win

Quote from DJGrenola:

found it

http://www.ali1548.ukshells.co.uk/vids/mstation.mp4

like I said, the first boost isn't so clever, but that's the general idea.

Very nice DJ, for some dumb reason i kept trying to go off further to the right around the pillers.

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AJAX

2008-02-05 04:48:36 pm

“Well done is better than well said”

Real nice video DJ. Out of curiosity, why didn't you use a bomb to open the door entering GTC. Is that what you meant by the first boost wasn't so clever?

Gu3st

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i wasted a bomb, then i did something like a dbj,

Kind of sounds like a triple bomb Jump.

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Gu3st

2008-02-07 03:05:57 pm

Jagger ftw

nah, it was same hight as ubj, but i only used 4 bombs
1 bomb wast
2 bomb to put me up
3 bomb (before 2 bomb exploed)
4 bomb (some where in the air)
and boom... same hight as ubj...

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DragonRidley

2008-03-23 11:50:48 am

Evil Innocence.

I sort of found one for Elite Research but the ones alredy there are faster. It might be useful if a way to skip space jump is found. Are people still working on that? I also wouldn't be surprised if somebody already found it.
Anyway here it is:

The boost at the top isn't necessary but I think it makes it little easier.

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Demonic18

2008-03-25 09:31:18 am

I've done the bomb jump over the barriers before, I don't know if it saved time or not though, I wasn't speed running or timing myself.

As for dropping Space Jump, sparky proved it's possible, although probably not by anyone human. The bomb jumps required to make it to each platform are so difficult even he couldn't get them one after the other, he used an AR with moonjump to get back up when he fell, but he did make the jumps. You need boostball however, so another percent drop isn't possible.

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MASTER-88: 2008-05-08 08:00:48 am

2008-05-08 06:45:45 am

Speedrunner

Some time ago i find new and probably 1-2 seconds faster way get crossway missiles on 100% speedrun.

I am using that my new 100% runs. Idea like lot geo core bomb slot, but this is much easier. Actually i can make that 50% of the time. This is not that any more random like normal method what Zoid use.

Jump towards missile expansion. When you get hit the roof go morph ball. If you did that timing correct Samus stuck off wall and pick up missile expansion.

I find that couple months ago but i don,t never mention that already. Sometimes this is even easier than normal method. I think this is bit faster too. At most 1-2 seconds.

Is anyone founded that already?
I don,t never see that in any current speedruns.

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tomatobob

2008-05-08 04:28:07 pm

Never stressed

It sounds like you are describing this.

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Demonic18

2008-05-08 06:17:28 pm

similar, but he's saying he morphs in mid-air after that final jump.

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tomatobob

2008-05-08 06:35:02 pm

Never stressed

Ah, you're right, I probably should have re-watched the vid to refresh my memory. :P

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MASTER-88

2008-05-09 05:49:59 am

Speedrunner

Quote from Demonic18:

similar, but he's saying he morphs in mid-air after that final jump.

Yeah.
I don,t need stay onto the ledge like this video.
Like lot geo core bomb slot W/O boost your must be stuck off wall.

This give you that missile expansion even you not need stay onto the ledge. Understand?
Can somebody make video about this?
I think i can make someday. I have DVD recorder, but i need install it and practice use it. Took lot time practice that. But if somebody understand what i mean you can make video before me.

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MASTER-88

2008-05-15 08:54:39 am

Speedrunner

Okay.

This is my crossway M-expansion speedtrick: I mess up it once, but anyway

Second video. Furnace M-expansion W/O spider ball. I mess up it once too, but video is one more minutes too long because i forget stop my Rec.

Anyway finally i can make videos. :P

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craztad

2008-05-15 06:04:02 pm

kyupi+yakisoba=win

another thing in crossway is that when opening the wave door if you start to aim up and to the left you can come into crossway and use a scan dash to get you clear across the room.

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AJAX

2008-05-16 09:54:15 am

“Well done is better than well said”

Nice tricks and videos. Hey Master-88, dosen't that hint system alert drive you crazy. Why didn't you turn that off?

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MASTER-88

2008-05-18 08:46:21 am

Speedrunner

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Nice tricks and videos. Hey Master-88, dosen't that hint system alert drive you crazy. Why didn't you turn that off?

Yeah i sometimes turn it off. Like last boss i can see his energy metter. But it text always come again when i die or restart. Actually i am pretty used it.

I probably can erased it in options, but i am too lazy.

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Gu3st

2008-05-27 07:14:13 pm

Jagger ftw

you know in cross way you can boost your self to the top of the 3 bars (instead of jump up which is alot slower)just unmorph at the end

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MASTER-88

2008-05-28 05:35:58 am

Speedrunner

Quote from Gu3st:

you know in cross way you can boost your self to the top of the 3 bars (instead of jump up which is alot slower)just unmorph at the end

Yeah i know. But this example video was done my 22% save file so i don,t have boost ball.

Anyway i think it is not much slower. It is very hard make perfect haf pipe with boost ball. It is only couple seconds slower use that and much easier too.

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MASTER-88

2008-05-29 01:37:26 pm

Speedrunner

Today i find three nice 100% speed tricks in GTH. I don,t know is it those trick founded already. I don,t remember it is long time when i watch Zoid run.

GTH shortcuts after frigate using ghetto jump (save 4-5 seconds)

Using BSJ (save 3-4 seconds)

Use series invisible slants: (Easy and fast way as well)

Anyway enjoy

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bushwacker

2008-05-29 01:47:44 pm

nice bsj's master-88. seems like no one has really explored uses for them in metroid prime 1 but you're doing a great job, keep looking and i bet you'll find some that will be big timesavers Wink

speaking of bsj's... i remember silent echo was able to bsj into the magmoor workstation secret world, he said it was really easy but i don't think there's a video. does anyone know where exactly to do it?