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2010-01-21 09:50:49 pm

Servin' you realness!!

I got my medical marijuana card today. It was pretty strange going into a store full of weed. The people who worked there were sooo friendly (lol).

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2010-01-21 10:26:44 pm

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do you mind sharing what you got it prescribed for?

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Poision Envy

2010-01-21 10:36:09 pm

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

And also how we can get one ourselves?

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Terrization Zillion

2010-01-22 07:27:43 am

Believe it or not that's actually a floppy disk.

I battled cancer a few years back, maybe i can get some.

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2010-01-22 09:21:15 am

Servin' you realness!!

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And also how we can get one ourselves?

Cancer, Hepatitis C, or HIV is an automatic approval, otherwise you have to have some kind of chronic pain or depression.

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2010-01-22 09:24:23 am

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It would be fun if they had it in the UK, then. Half of the country gets signed off work with depression now, and all you have to do is tell them you feel down due to working all the time. real world, anyone?

You'll need to get in quick, though, because I think they're going to make living off benefits mandatory soon, since the magical money fairies are providing the country's income now. Yay!

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2010-01-22 09:37:49 am

Servin' you realness!!

I used a 'tincture' lastnight which is basically concentrated liquid THC. I ended up doing 3 times as much as the doc told me to, but never really got 'high' like I would have from smoking it. Instead, I just felt good. I watched a couple of documentaries (which were of course extremely interesting) and I even got through them without wanting to kill David Attenborough! I awoke after sleeping very well and took some more. I wanted to see if it handled caffeine withdrawal as well as it handled other types of withdrawal, but I still longed for my coffee too much. Oh well, coffee aint gonna kill ya.

The medical marijuana thing is really taking off in Colorado. Over 180 dispensaries have opened in the last 6 months, and my friend turned his whole house into a pot garden as one of the dispensaries' suppliers. They say one day earlier this month, the state received 1800 applications in ONE day. Holy crap.

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2010-01-22 11:16:32 am

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it really does seem like it's going to be legalized soon.

i wish i knew which corporations to invest in.

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2010-01-22 12:37:42 pm

Servin' you realness!!

Well one thing really sucks about it. I'm playing super metroid and can't pull off hardly ANY tricks. My reaction time is totally shot. Even mockballing takes upwards of 10 attempts, even though I don't feel impaired. The atmosphere and appearance of the game are enhanced, but I can't play it for shit! This is strange to me, because high doses of opiates, which are supposed to be depressants, enhanced my reaction time greatly. So I'm surprised that since this tincture is also a depressant, it has the opposite effect. On the plus side, I'm not nearly as frustrated as I normally would be, so it's kind of a wash. It really sucks that I can't play as well, though. Maybe with some practice it will get better.

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2010-01-22 02:03:40 pm

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Quote from nate:

it really does seem like it's going to be legalized soon.

i wish i knew which corporations to invest in.

It better not become legal, or I will protest. I mean seriously, we already have enough trouble with smokers and drunks. Legalizing weed would only add to drug-related issues that we face nowadays. Even if strict marketing and recreational use laws are passed with it's legalization, you'd still have people living under the influence of marijuana and facing health and character issues as a side effect. It's just unethical if you ask me.

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2010-01-22 02:09:23 pm

mindfulness

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have you ever used it?

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2010-01-22 02:18:05 pm

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Why am I so amazing?

Pot is both physically and socially less harmful than beer. And people who want it can easily get it right now anyways. Legalizing it means it can be taxed, giving the gov't revenue it desperately needs, and regulated, which means far less risk of getting harmful tainted weed. It will also clear out the otherwise law-abiding citizens being prosicuted in our bloated and overcrowded justice system.

The only downside I see is being able to set a legal limit for driving. As Opium just said, it can impair your reaction time and there's nothing simple like a breathalyzer for pot. I immagine something could be worked out though.

If you're wondering, I say all this as someone who never smoked a joint his whole life and likely never will.

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2010-01-22 02:31:04 pm

Servin' you realness!!

Having done a myriad of drugs throughout my life, I can honestly say that marijuana is NO BIG DEAL. Alcohol is FAR more impairing and dangerous. While that is more of an argument for the prohibition of alcohol than the legalization of marijuana, it is a plain fact that the overwhelming majority of the harm that pot brings to society is because of the fact that it is illegal. Untold billions are being spent on law enforcement and prison over something so harmless, and vast sums of money are going to organized crime from the unlawful trafficking of it.

As far as worrying about people driving on it - don't. Be more afraid of the people driving while drunk or on certain prescription drugs (the scale of the use/abuse of the prescriptions would blow your mind, btw). If taken in LARGE doses, marijuana definitely makes someone an unsafe driver. HOWEVER, the nature of the effect of the drug does not delude someone of the fact that they shouldn't be driving, which is the opposite of alcohol and some other drugs. In other words, people who are too stoned to drive KNOW that they are too stoned to drive, and 99.999% of the time they aren't going to even attempt it.

The social impact of marijuana is practically nonexistant. It doesn't tear apart families or cause people to lose everything. There are a few who claim to have been addicted to it, but it's exceptional to say the least. I'm willing to bet that more people get 'addicted' to cough syrup than marijuana.

I can go into any drugstore and buy a myriad of chemicals that are far more dangerous and impairing than pot, it makes NO sense to wage a war against it.

People generally accept the idea that alcohol is there to relieve stress and its effects are recreational, and it's considered OK. I don't understand why people have such a hard time accepting the same attitude towards something that's so much less dangerous. The propaganda campaign against the drug has sown such deep roots of ignorance.

EDIT: btw, I could drive just fine or do long division. The frame-by-frame precision needed for me to play my best game of super metroid is a far cry from any of the coordination needed to perform daily tasks efficiently, there's no comparison there.

Having done a myriad of drugs throughout my life, I can honestly say that marijuana is NO BIG DEAL.  Alcohol is FAR more impairing and dangerous.  While that is more of an argument for the prohibition of alcohol than the legalization of marijuana, it is a plain fact that the overwhelming majority of the harm that pot brings to society is because of the fact that it is illegal.  Untold billions are being spent on law enforcement and prison over something so harmless, and vast sums of money are going to organized crime from the unlawful trafficking of it.

As far as worrying about people driving on it - don't.  Be more afraid of the people driving while drunk or on certain prescription drugs (the scale of the use/abuse of the prescriptions would blow your mind, btw).  If taken in LARGE doses, marijuana definitely makes someone an unsafe driver.  HOWEVER, the nature of the effect of the drug does not delude someone of the fact that they shouldn't be driving, which is the opposite of alcohol and some other drugs.  In other words, people who are too stoned to drive KNOW that they are too stoned to drive, and 99.999% of the time they aren't going to even attempt it.

The social impact of marijuana is practically nonexistant.  It doesn't tear apart families or cause people to lose everything.  There are a few who claim to have been addicted to it, but it's exceptional to say the least.  I'm willing to bet that more people get 'addicted' to cough syrup than marijuana.

I can go into any drugstore and buy a myriad of chemicals that are far more dangerous and impairing than pot, it makes NO sense to wage a war against it.

People generally accept the idea that alcohol is there to relieve stress and its effects are recreational, and it's considered OK.  I don't understand why people have such a hard time accepting the same attitude towards something that's so much less dangerous.  The propaganda campaign against the drug has sown such deep roots of ignorance.

EDIT:  btw, I could drive just fine or do long division.  The frame-by-frame precision needed for me to play my best game of super metroid is a far cry from any of the coordination needed to perform daily tasks efficiently, there's no comparison there.

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2010-01-22 02:44:20 pm

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Why am I so amazing?

It's also worth noting that alcohol addiction is a real, physical disease. Pot adiction is, in pretty much every case, entirely psychological.

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2010-01-22 02:46:26 pm

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If you're wondering, I say all this as someone who never smoked a joint his whole life and likely never will.

This describes me, too. And the only thing that I have against weed is that people under its' influence (though not neccesarily high on it) have a tendency to royally piss me off. However, this is a personal gripe I have with it, arising from what little interaction I've had with the drug, and I'm sure there are people who are delightfully pleasant after a few tokes.

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2010-01-22 02:49:42 pm

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have you ever used it?

No, and I don't plan to...
And think about it this way Toozin, would a pot smoker really put up with taxes and legal restrictions of pot when he can get it from a local dealer, and not put up with the hassle? And regulating its use will become more difficult because just like with smoking and alcohol (no matter how less harmful weed is compared to these two), people will ignore restrictions, and with the huge increase of the pot smoking population, the problems that it previously posed will only escalate.

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2010-01-22 02:57:14 pm

Servin' you realness!!

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And think about it this way Toozin, would a pot smoker really put up with taxes and legal restrictions of pot when he can get it from a local dealer, and not put up with the hassle?

Legalizing it would eradicate the sale of it on the street. The price of LEGAL marijuana would be far less than the illegal kind, including the taxes, AND the quality would be regulated.

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And regulating its use will become more difficult because just like with smoking and alcohol (no matter how less harmful weed is compared to these two), people will ignore restrictions, and with the huge increase of the pot smoking population, the problems that it previously posed will only escalate.

Why regulate it's use at all? There is no real attempt to regulate alcohol consumption, people are free to purchase and drink as much as they damn well please for whatever reason they please. What are the problems you speak of that are brought about by marijuana users?

There's even a growing number of cops who support legalization:
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
These are guys who deal with social problems in society every day. Would they support the legalization of marijuana if they were dealing with consequences from it? If anyone would know the truth about that issue, it's them.

[quote="Idkbutlike2"]
And think about it this way Toozin, would a pot smoker really put up with taxes and legal restrictions of pot when he can get it from a local dealer, and not put up with the hassle? [/quote]

Legalizing it would eradicate the sale of it on the street.  The price of LEGAL marijuana would be far less than the illegal kind, including the taxes, AND the quality would be regulated.

[quote="Idkbutlike2"]
And regulating its use will become more difficult because just like with smoking and alcohol (no matter how less harmful weed is compared to these two), people will ignore restrictions, and with the huge increase of the pot smoking population, the problems that it previously posed will only escalate.[/quote]

Why regulate it's use at all?  There is no real attempt to regulate alcohol consumption, people are free to purchase and drink as much as they damn well please for whatever reason they please.  What are the problems you speak of that are brought about by marijuana users?

There's even a growing number of cops who support legalization:
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
These are guys who deal with social problems in society every day.  Would they support the legalization of marijuana if they were dealing with consequences from it?  If anyone would know the truth about that issue, it's them.

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2010-01-22 04:02:59 pm

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Quote from Idkbutlike2:

And think about it this way Toozin, would a pot smoker really put up with taxes and legal restrictions of pot when he can get it from a local dealer, and not put up with the hassle? And regulating its use will become more difficult because just like with smoking and alcohol (no matter how less harmful weed is compared to these two), people will ignore restrictions, and with the huge increase of the pot smoking population, the problems that it previously posed will only escalate.

In that case nothing will really except the government would save money by not playing in a legal circus with people charged for marijuana possession. It's win-win really.

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I watched a couple of documentaries (which were of course extremely interesting) and I even got through them without wanting to kill David Attenborough!

Why would you want to do that anyway? :(

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2010-01-22 04:25:29 pm

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In that case nothing will really except the government would save money by not playing in a legal circus with people charged for marijuana possession. It's win-win really.

Oh please, the only true win-win solutions concerning recreational drugs are if:
a. People completely stop doing them all together.
b. A miracle recreational drug is developed that is not addictive, does not have any side effects or long-term health risks, and can be used repeatedly without the user developing tolerance to it.

As for the problems caused by marijuana users? Well, to begin with, there's the issue of users losing lots of money from buying pot regularly, and once addiction and tolerance start kicking in, you'll be spending even more of it because you need more of the drug to get the same euphoria you used to experience. The second problem is that, like it or not, there are plenty of people who look down upon recreational drug use morally, and don't like the fact that people become dependent on substances. Every person who starts using recreational drugs gives themselves a label in society, and it doesn't exactly make you look any better. And finally, there's the issue of long-term health degradation. Now, I'm not talking about smoking pot for about 1-5 years, then going to rehab 'cause you're fed up with it. I'm talking about doing it for a decade of more. That's when your health really starts to suffer.

Overall, the problems of marijuana affect the users themselves more than they affect society, but it's for their sake that these laws are in place, to keep people from making a stupid decision.

[quote="tomatobob"] In that case nothing will really except the government would save money by not playing in a legal circus with people charged for marijuana possession. It's win-win really.[/quote]
Oh please, the only true win-win solutions concerning recreational drugs are if:
a. People completely stop doing them all together.
b. A miracle recreational drug is developed that is not addictive, does not have any side effects or long-term health risks, and can be used repeatedly without the user developing tolerance to it.

As for the problems caused by marijuana users? Well, to begin with, there's the issue of users losing lots of money from buying pot regularly, and once addiction and tolerance start kicking in, you'll be spending even more of it because you need more of the drug to get the same euphoria you used to experience. The second problem is that, like it or not, there are plenty of people who look down upon recreational drug use morally, and don't like the fact that people become dependent on substances. Every person who starts using recreational drugs gives themselves a label in society, and it doesn't exactly make you look any better. And finally, there's the issue of long-term health degradation. Now, I'm not talking about smoking pot for about 1-5 years, then going to rehab 'cause you're fed up with it. I'm talking about doing it for a decade of more. That's when your health really starts to suffer.

Overall, the problems of marijuana affect the users themselves more than they affect society, but it's for their sake that these laws are in place, to keep people from making a stupid decision.

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2010-01-22 04:37:57 pm

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

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Oh please, the only true win-win solutions concerning recreational drugs are if:
a. People completely stop doing them all together.
b. A miracle recreational drug is developed that is not addictive, does not have any side effects or long-term health risks, and can be used repeatedly without the user developing tolerance to it.

As for the problems caused by marijuana users? Well, to begin with, there's the issue of users losing lots of money from buying pot regularly, and once addiction and tolerance start kicking in, you'll be spending even more of it because you need more of the drug to get the same euphoria you used to experience. The second problem is that, like it or not, there are plenty of people who look down upon recreational drug use morally, and don't like the fact that people become dependent on substances. Every person who starts using recreational drugs gives themselves a label in society, and it doesn't exactly make you look any better. And finally, there's the issue of long-term health degradation. Now, I'm not talking about smoking pot for about 1-5 years, then going to rehab 'cause you're fed up with it. I'm talking about doing it for a decade of more. That's when your health really starts to suffer.

Overall, the problems of marijuana affect the users themselves more than they affect society, but it's for their sake that these laws are in place, to keep people from making a stupid decisions.

Oh please, did you learn all of that in health class at school? Being addicted to marijuana is like being addicted to any hobby like video games. It's not like Nicotine where you body needs more to calm itself. Also, what do you think these health issues are? Inhaling smoke? So what if you make and eat hash brownies instead? OH EM GEE HEALTH RISKS = GONE

Here, check out this website before you embarrass yourself more: http://www.abovetheignorance.org/

Also, on a slightly un-related note, my health class teacher is a regular pot smoker.

EDIT: I remember in 6th, 7th, and most of 8th grade I was totally against Marijuana. I thought it was this totally bad drug that made people do stupid things and made them unable to control themselves. I also thought you had to eat it like broccoli. I also thought it was all hard like broccoli too.

EDIT2: haha this reminds me of the time a friend of mine first used a bong. They had never seen a person use one before, or how to use it so they blew INTO it instead. A whole bunch of water came squirting out and it was pretty hilarious.

[quote="Idkbutlike2"]Oh please, the only true win-win solutions concerning recreational drugs are if:
a. People completely stop doing them all together.
b. A miracle recreational drug is developed that is not addictive, does not have any side effects or long-term health risks, and can be used repeatedly without the user developing tolerance to it.

As for the problems caused by marijuana users? Well, to begin with, there's the issue of users losing lots of money from buying pot regularly, and once addiction and tolerance start kicking in, you'll be spending even more of it because you need more of the drug to get the same euphoria you used to experience. The second problem is that, like it or not, there are plenty of people who look down upon recreational drug use morally, and don't like the fact that people become dependent on substances. Every person who starts using recreational drugs gives themselves a label in society, and it doesn't exactly make you look any better. And finally, there's the issue of long-term health degradation. Now, I'm not talking about smoking pot for about 1-5 years, then going to rehab 'cause you're fed up with it. I'm talking about doing it for a decade of more. That's when your health really starts to suffer.

Overall, the problems of marijuana affect the users themselves more than they affect society, but it's for their sake that these laws are in place, to keep people from making a stupid decisions.
[/quote]
Oh please, did you learn all of that in health class at school? Being addicted to marijuana is like being addicted to any hobby like video games. It's not like Nicotine where you body needs more to calm itself. Also, what do you think these health issues are? Inhaling smoke? So what if you make and eat hash brownies instead? OH EM GEE HEALTH RISKS = GONE

Here, check out this website before you embarrass yourself more: http://www.abovetheignorance.org/

Also, on a slightly un-related note, my health class teacher is a regular pot smoker.

EDIT: I remember in 6th, 7th, and most of 8th grade I was totally against Marijuana. I thought it was this totally bad drug that made people do stupid things and made them unable to control themselves. I also thought you had to eat it like broccoli. I also thought it was all hard like broccoli too.

EDIT2: haha this reminds me of the time a friend of mine first used a bong. They had never seen a person use one before, or how to use it so they blew INTO it instead. A whole bunch of water came squirting out and it was pretty hilarious.

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2010-01-22 04:59:59 pm

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I don't find that site even remotely credible... They don't site any sources of their information, and the majority of the links they have listed at the bottom are to a bunch of message boards (and sites like Newgrounds and Wikipedia). And I know that the health risks are rather low, that's why I included them as the last reason for my anti-pot argument.

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2010-01-22 05:29:51 pm

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I don't see it being legalised in the forseeable future anyway. The status quo kind of... works. The people I know who advocate its' legal status would probably lose interest if they could get it from Superdrug.

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The stigma doesn't help with its legalisation. The image of it only being smoked by nerdy wasters doesn't do much for it, even though it's just a stupid stereotype. My personal view (applies to alcohol too) is that the authorities should simply take a zero-tolerance approach when it comes to entering the community. You want to drive? Stay away from drink and drugs. You're going to work? Stay away from drink and drugs. It doesn't matter to what degree different people are affected by these things - the fact remains that they ARE affected - I still think they should only be used recreationally.

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