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Cpadolf:
registered on 2007-02-14 03:32:46 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Sweden
Hurr Durr
Quote from MASTER-88:


I can planned try Torizo skip too, but i don,t sure how hard this is.


It's quite hard, I've only done it twice in SS runs. The two hard parts about it is to turn around when taking the bomb (the timing must be near perfect) and when to jump to the door (also pretty tight timing) between that you just go nuts on L,R and then try to turn around once inside the door to exit quicker (It can be done turning around there but it's really really hard.)

If you want it in a SS run you'll need to give it a lot of practice.
BlueGlass:
registered on 2005-10-05 06:20:34 pm.
 
Gender: male
New video for maridia vi:

http://files.filefront.com/kmp4/;8942243;/fileinfo.html
nate:
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registered on 2003-09-15 06:16:34 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: lubbock, tx, usa
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it's up.
Lance Uppercut:
registered on 2006-12-30 05:56:19 pm.
 
Yeah, that one looks much nicer and still so natural. Good work BG.
MASTER-88:
registered on 2006-02-10 02:48:30 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: Finland
Speedrunner
Thanks Cpadolf. Wink

Can you made video about this? Nate can put that in mainpage later. There is no Torizo skip video yet.

I really can guess it is very precise. I test once arm pumping and timing how much faster it is than regular run. It save almost 0.20 seconds per in 7 seconds corridor. My opinion it is very little amount time, probably i doing something wrong.

This surprised me when Pj.man said you need arm pumping when you skip Torizo on PAL versio. Arm pumping is very uneffective or i doing that something wrong.

I can still go practice that torizo skip. Probably best place is save in Crateria before Torizo and try that over again. I don,t have emulator right now.

Still it is bit weird, because arm pumping don,t really save any time. Know anybody how much arm pumping is faster than regular run speed? And i talking about PAL versio.
MR.X:
registered on 2006-06-06 01:21:35 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Germany
Best site upadate ever! Thanks, nate!
Cpadolf:
registered on 2007-02-14 03:32:46 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Sweden
Hurr Durr
MASTER:

Well aiming down and releasing again puts you a total of 2 pixels further ahead, which while not being of much use in a unassisted run is crucial it the Torizo skip, the faster you press L,R the bigger the chance to get out is.

Oh and didn't PJ post a Torizo skip vid on the former page?
MASTER-88:
registered on 2006-02-10 02:48:30 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: Finland
Speedrunner
Oh yeah. I miss/forget that pj.man torizo skip video in previous page.  Embarassed 

Nate can put that in mainpage next.  This is one important speedtrick.
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registered on 2003-09-15 06:16:34 pm.
 
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does someone want to write a desc (notes)?
Cpadolf:
registered on 2007-02-14 03:32:46 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Sweden
Hurr Durr
To the Torizo skip?

Something like: The bomb Torizo can be skipped in the European (PAL) version of the game. First of all you must turn around as shown when collecting the bombs, the timing is very precise. When running towards the door use the armpump technique. Jump for the door as late as possible and just when you start touching the gray area of the door press right to exit quicker.

Dunno kind of sucky explanation but that's the general idea.
P.JMan:
registered on 2005-11-30 10:52:21 am.
 
Gender: male
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
How about:

  • The Bomb Torizo can only be skipped on the PAL version of the game.
  • You have to run towards the bombs and then turn around at the earliest possible point whilst still picking up the bombs, the timing is very precise.
  • When running towards the door, you have to rapidly tap L or R (atleast 5 times) and jump at the latest possible point without hitting the wall. Turning around just as you reach the door can help exit quicker
Cpadolf:
registered on 2007-02-14 03:32:46 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Sweden
Hurr Durr
Though you can actually do it with only 1 armpump (probably 0 under perfect TAS conditions)

But anyway that explanation was good.
ING-X:
registered on 2005-11-19 05:27:17 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: The Lylat System
yeah
Finally, an update! And you've got suitless stuff! Best update ever.  grin new

I've really been waiting for this ever since it was announced. I think it's cool how you have all the up-to-date techniques and skips (like gravity suit). I am wondering why you don't have skipping the varia suit though... Shouldn't the Ridley battle be under a skipping the varia suit category? Well, the varialess magmoor run is under other in the MP section, so maybe not...
Cpadolf:
registered on 2007-02-14 03:32:46 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Sweden
Hurr Durr
I guess that there is not a varialess part because there is not any specific trick or weird glitch room strategy you have to do, just be fast as hell. There should only be need for maybe a text section that explains that varia is skipable.
ING-X:
registered on 2005-11-19 05:27:17 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: The Lylat System
yeah
Quote from Cpadolf:
I guess that there is not a varialess part because there is not any specific trick or weird glitch room strategy you have to do, just be fast as hell. There should only be need for maybe a text section that explains that varia is skipable.


I kinda figured that was why. I think they should have the X-ray climb on the site, though.
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registered on 2003-09-15 06:16:34 pm.
 
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Location: lubbock, tx, usa
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what version of snes9x are you using p.jman? that movie doesn't play at all with 1.51 and it desyncs immediately with 1.43.
P.JMan:
registered on 2005-11-30 10:52:21 am.
 
Gender: male
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
What about Maridia III and the Draygon grapple kill

I'm using 1.43 v9
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k, torizo skip's up.
P.JMan:
registered on 2005-11-30 10:52:21 am.
 
Gender: male
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
I should probably have made the movie without every single item exept bombs
ING-X:
registered on 2005-11-19 05:27:17 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: The Lylat System
yeah
Quote from nate:
k, torizo skip's up.


Hooray!

Edit: In the arm pumping section you should probably add "Examples of arm pumping include skipping the torizo".
BlueGlass:
registered on 2005-10-05 06:20:34 pm.
 
Gender: male
Quote from P.JMan:


I'd assume we would want the videos to be as easy as possible for people to understand/execute.  Seeing as I'm not entirely sure what's going on in the snail climb video (plus it would seem extremely strange to the uneducated),  and the draygon video is from that stupid 100% TAS, neither video fits the requirements.

And they're on youtube, so you would have to make some smvs yourself in the first place.
P.JMan:
registered on 2005-11-30 10:52:21 am.
 
Gender: male
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
Quote from BlueGlass:
I'm not entirely sure what's going on in the snail climb video

He holds down (you can see in the input display)
Azor:
registered on 2006-06-08 07:48:44 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: Tampico, Tamaulipas, Mexico
Phazon level: 83%
Wow I'm mentioned on a trick!!
BlueGlass:
registered on 2005-10-05 06:20:34 pm.
 
Gender: male
You did partially invent that new Phantoon strategy, after all.
leafgreen386:
registered on 2006-07-30 04:26:33 pm.
 
Quote from BlueGlass:
I'd assume we would want the videos to be as easy as possible for people to understand/execute.  Seeing as I'm not entirely sure what's going on in the snail climb video (plus it would seem extremely strange to the uneducated),  and the draygon video is from that stupid 100% TAS, neither video fits the requirements.

And they're on youtube, so you would have to make some smvs yourself in the first place.

If something as precise as the torizo skip is being included, why shouldn't other precise techniques be included, too? I'm sure there are a couple frames of leeway on the draygon thing, which is more than enough for someone to practice and use.