Metroid Prime TAS route ideas

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2011-09-25 12:17:37 pm

MP 1,2 speedruns MP 1 TASing

hey guys i started a new ntsc tas it is very fast my goal is to get sub 0:57 and i want to ask if theres a faster route than sparky's.... anyone can help? thank you :)
one guy on youtube (itsPersonnal) told me that parax and sparky are having some cool ideas for a TAS route so i decited to open a new thread for it <.<
the TAS will be uploaded in FULL HD highest graphics with anastropic filtering x16 and antilaising x16Q (dolphin hasn't god x32)
my specs: GPU: AMD 1100T 6x 3.7Ghz
Graphic: Geforce 580GTX with 3GB
RAM: 4GB (no more needed) @2.134Mhz (fastest possible speed)
2.65 TB hard drive
resolution 1920x1080.

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2011-09-25 12:22:14 pm

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so well heres my first part it took my over 10 hours to complete <.<

im really proud of this one i cant detect any mistakes only a few possible very tiny ones extra_smug

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2011-09-25 02:35:42 pm

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dunno man, i saw a lot of mistakes. some of it is cool but a lot of it looks sloppy. did you actually time and test things?

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2011-09-25 02:41:18 pm

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yes
like 99% was much faster than any other run <.<

Edit: sry sparky i was wrong it wasnt really faster on every spots, yes there are defenitly mistakes in it but it is already pretty close to the fastest possible :)

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2011-09-25 02:50:08 pm

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which mistakes do you mean sparky??
(the parasite queen yea i know i lost around 10 frames there but it seems impossible to do it as fast as miles done, i used 9 missiles but i shot em faster and i had to make a complicated dash)
there are also a few little mistakes at the very first doors (only lost like 5 frames) but it was by far the fastest ever and i made kinda multi - tasking which also saved time
all around i think the perfect improved tas of this part would take weeks of hard and annoying work.
i also got a few pms from good guys who said that 0:18 was a mistake but i tried it and the room depressurizes if u scan that thing no matter where youre staying <.<

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2011-09-25 02:50:47 pm

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i suspect that a good tas would look "sloppy", ie there won't be many smooth movements because prime is so janky. hard to tell whether this one is good or not without comparing it side by side to another video. one thing i noticed was that you seemed to take too long setting up certain dashes and stuff, especially at the beginning. maybe that's just how it is though.

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2011-09-25 02:54:00 pm

MP 1,2 speedruns MP 1 TASing

@aekarian the first dash required around 400 re records i dont moved perfectly,i know but yeah... it does not cost much frames <.<
it was 14.7 seconds faster than sparky's WR run ...

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2011-09-25 02:54:52 pm

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cool. looking forward to seeing more.

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2011-09-25 03:24:07 pm

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The only thing I caught was at 1:04 you could have probably sped it up a tiny bit by laying a bomb before unmorphing. (Unless you tested that to be slower than the unmorph+ shot)

That ant the parasite queen was ridiculously slow :P

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yeah, isn't it possible to get pq's window to appear right in front of you so you don't have to move at all?

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i worked long on 1:04 and i figured out that the moment i shot the door was exaclty the same frame where the room was loaded.
petrie911 said that a TAS MUST start with a completely new game for some reason so i wasnt able to skip the PQ cutscene and the PQ's window is moving in that cutscene.
the first missile was shot as fast as possible and the last missile was hitting the PQ as fast as possible and i used only 9 missiles
you cant hit the first and the second missile perfectly for some reason so 9 is the best possible
and that means that the battle was (currently) the best possible for TAS <.<

ty for trying to improve my tas aiwebs_011

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petrie911 said that a TAS MUST start with a completely new game for some reason so i wasnt able to skip the PQ cutscene and the PQ's window is moving in that cutscene.

that's a fucking retarded rule. but i guess if you're trying to submit to somewhere with that rule, you have to obey.

should just put it on youtube instead and do whatever the fuck you want.

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2011-09-25 04:47:34 pm

Yes, that did just happen...

^^ ture dat XD

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2011-09-25 04:57:16 pm

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What I meant with PQ being slow was the speed you fired your missiles at.

It feels way slower than what's possible.

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2011-09-25 05:50:11 pm

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petrie911 said that a TAS MUST start with a completely new game for some reason so i wasnt able to skip the PQ cutscene and the PQ's window is moving in that cutscene.

that's a fucking retarded rule. but i guess if you're trying to submit to somewhere with that rule, you have to obey.

should just put it on youtube instead and do whatever the fuck you want.

I cringe every time I read a discussion on TASVideos where someone suggests a Hard Mode run of a game, it immediately gets shot down for that reason, and no one even suggests changing the rule or making exceptions for certain run types.

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2011-09-25 05:53:19 pm

Yes, that did just happen...

and umm just saying, but TASvideos would take your run, the whole thing needs to be on one DTM file and the video can't be edited at all >_____________>

the rules on TASvideos are really dumb sometimes

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yea 1 reason why i hate tasvideos <.<

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2011-09-26 08:10:40 am

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huh yea right a hard run would be impossible if you cant take a safe :O

but yea i dont care i worked so hard for this part because i need it on any future tas to save a lot work
future tas will be 21% or 20 and also a 100% <.<
than i will try to improve my any% and than i will wait for petrie's TASes

oh and maybe i also will try to get the " best perfect" escape <.<

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2011-09-26 08:18:30 am

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"but this is how we've always done it"

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2011-09-26 02:35:33 pm

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I'll be looking forward to the low percent TAS.

Try to go for the lowest so we can see just how far off our 3 that have completed it have been.

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2011-09-28 03:15:51 pm

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there's a long way to go in TAS territory since plenty of console strats could be overhauled a lot without the human limits.

since you're not submitting to TASvideos, using a pre-made save should be better. starting from the new save would only matter if you submit there (kinda like it matters how you record if you submit to SDA but, if you're not submitting, you can record the way you want)

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2011-09-28 03:56:29 pm

Always one step ahead

at 0:32 maybe you can scan dash and spin to look at the door you just came in and scan dash twice in the room to save even more time the second scan dash has to be curved also to shoot the door to get to the next room in theory this should be faster than walking to the door if frame perfect

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2011-09-28 05:12:56 pm

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hm yea... could be but not with a curved or bended i would use a angled R dash to get more straight and shoot the door faster

good nice idea! ty

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