Max% NBMB

2007-11-08 04:03:01 pm

Every Bit Counts

What is the max% you can get in a NBMB. I want the percent, with and without SW's/X-Ray Climbing Abuse. Thanks in advance.

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P.JMan:

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P.JMan

2007-11-08 04:07:51 pm

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

With the x-ray climb it's 98% and legally it's 73%

Fano7:

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2007-11-08 04:15:50 pm

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What 2 items can't you get? The gravity suit and a WS E-Tank? Thanks for answering.

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2007-11-08 04:57:00 pm

yeah

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What 2 items can't you get? The gravity suit and a WS E-Tank? Thanks for answering.

So you're doing a max% NBMB run, huh? Sounds interesting. I've actually wanted to see something like this for a long time. Good luck! grin new

Fano7:

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2007-11-08 05:02:52 pm

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Don't get too excited, as it will be a few months before I come out with it. I need to figure out what the 73 items are, and how to get them.

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2007-11-08 05:10:32 pm

yeah

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Don't get too excited, as it will be a few months before I come out with it. I need to figure out what the 73 items are, and how to get them.

Watch Red Scarlet's 72% NBMB Run to see how to get all the items except the Evil Power Bomb #66.

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Fano7: 2007-11-08 05:29:13 pm

2007-11-08 05:18:15 pm

Every Bit Counts

Yeah. Where is evil PB #66?

Edit: Yay! 500^th post. aiwebs_028

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2007-11-08 05:28:00 pm

yeah

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Yeah. Where is evil PB #66

In Maridia in one of the rooms you have to use quicksand to get to. Check the NBMB guide on GameFAQs for a complete guide to Maridia.

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BlueGlass

2007-11-08 07:17:04 pm

Quote from P.JMan:

With the x-ray climb it's 98% and legally it's 73%

Where are you getting 98% from? Or did you find a way to make the game think Phantoon is dead? Because otherwise the following items are ungrabbable due to room states:

gravity
WS rtank
missiles in same room
WS etank
right WS supers
(not completely sure about this one, but safe to assume) WS top missiles
(same as above) WS left supers

That makes 94%

Additionally, last I heard, there was no way to grab Varia and get out, so unless that's been solved, xray glitch NBMB will have to end at Varia.

Fano7:

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2007-11-08 07:19:53 pm

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Well I think 2 of those items have been solved by Kejardon, if I read the FAQ right.

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2007-11-08 07:21:07 pm

yeah

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Yay! 500^th post. aiwebs_028

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That's... the most smilies I've ever seen in one post.

Fano7:

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2007-11-08 07:56:23 pm

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Sorry.

Kejardon:

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2007-11-09 12:23:59 am

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

None of the items in the WS even *exist* until Phantoon is dead, except for the reserve tank (or was it an energy tank?). So none of those can be collected, even though you can still get to half of them.
Last I heard, it was impossible to even GET to the Varia Suit, thanks to Kraid's omnipresent hitbox. If you could get to it though... hm. I think Kraid's omnipresent hitbox would make getting out with it equally impossible, unless there happened to be a convenient door block in the BTS data. Which I doubt there is.
AFAIK, Ridley's e-tank and the Space Jump have also not been acquired. For that matter, has anyone even passed Botwoon yet?

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P.JMan

2007-11-09 02:04:09 am

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

What about your mystical "I can make a random door block by dying in a certain room" glitch

Oh, and I could only think of the Gravity Suit and the Super Missile pack at the time

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Saturn

2007-11-09 09:31:11 am

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For that matter, has anyone even passed Botwoon yet?

I doubt, as it requires a Kejardon-style glitch, which is unlikely to be found by anybody else. :P

Regarding the run, a nice idea Fano. Don't forget to check Scarlet's run frequently, to not miss anything.

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2007-11-09 09:53:16 am

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

Kraid's room is too small to make use of those door blocks. All you get is BTS and background data, which will be the same every time you enter the room.
I had an idea for skipping Botwoon yesterday, but after I thought about it I realized it wouldn't work the way I was thinking. He's the most likely obstacle to be skipped next though.

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2007-11-09 02:10:46 pm

yeah

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Sorry.

It's okay, it was funny. I guess my response should gone like this:

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That... is the most smilies I have ever seen in one post. Shocked

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Tahngarthor

2007-11-10 01:32:25 am

Bangaa Bishop

sorry I feel like a noob but what do you mean when you say "X-ray climb" ? And how does this factor into the 25% of the items it depends on?

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2007-11-10 09:41:22 pm

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X-Ray climb uses the X-Ray to escape room bounders. You get stuck, and use the X-Ray to force stand, crouch, force stand, crouch, etc. It is what makes a NBMB beatable (both with enableing access to Tourian and skipping MB, the other is space time beam). It's really confusing, and hard to do. And don't feel bad, we all needed infomation at one point.

Edit: The moment of truth. Do I enter Kraid to get the missile now, or after speed booster? I'm going with after speedbooster. I will not be releaseing WIP's, but you can PM me if you want to see the run at a given point.

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BlueGlass

2007-11-10 11:01:23 pm

Quote from Kejardon:

Kraid's room is too small to make use of those door blocks. All you get is BTS and background data, which will be the same every time you enter the room.
I had an idea for skipping Botwoon yesterday, but after I thought about it I realized it wouldn't work the way I was thinking. He's the most likely obstacle to be skipped next though.

Would the idea you posted forever ago to use the murder beam to skip Botwoon by clipping through the metal door leading to the purple cactus rooms work (if you don't remember what I'm talking about, I could go search for your post)?

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2007-11-11 01:18:16 am

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

Now that you mention it, I *have* done that before. Gravity suit shouldn't make a difference, it just might take 10x longer to actually do (don't remember if the door is under water or not, or if it would even matter).
There's a few paths to the Plasma Beam that should work now too, and one of them should even be out of water.
So yeah. I guess we have skipped Botwoon. Just not in sequence.

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BlueGlass

2007-11-11 12:11:53 pm

Okay, so a theoretical NBMB is now all items except for the WS stuff and Spring Ball, am I right (the etank after Ridley is probably obtainable with OOR travel, and seeing as running out of health doesn't pose a problem due to the pause screen glitch, it doesn't matter if it takes a really long time)?

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P.JMan

2007-11-11 12:34:11 pm

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

You could collect Spring Ball last

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