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evilchen:
registered on 2006-01-06 09:07:06 am.
 
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2006-01-31 08:57:40 am
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1. Why would anyone save those damn idiots.

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Hey  Evil or Very Mad  the helped everyone of us to learn the walljump and the jetjump!! imagine they didnt !! a speedrun without jetjump/walljump ohhh my...  Rolling Eyes 
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Laney:
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registered on 2004-08-02 08:31:44 am.
 
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2006-01-31 03:44:27 pm
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You call yourself 19 years old?

Anyway, I tried it now about 6 times and I don't think that it's possible without a turbo player.
Qlex:
registered on 2006-01-11 05:13:12 am.
 
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2006-02-01 11:09:12 am
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Hey, but who discovered that L/R button technique? It is impossible to escape Torizo without it right? Did Nintendo notice it, so they put it on NTSC version or is it just a strict PAL/NTSC problem?
Oh, and does a turbo player activate a button every 2 frames? Thanks for answering, I look like a newb...
Kejardon:
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2006-02-01 11:26:51 am
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The NTSC version came before PAL. The PAL conversion was a bit sloppy, there are a lot of differences that aren't scaled properly due to the 50/60 frame difference.
Basically, because PAL is slower, Samus is sped up to make the game look like it's still going the same speed as NTSC. However, the Torizo's door closing is *not* sped up. Because of this difference, you can escape the Torizo's room in PAL.

A turbo button will usually press the button once every two frames, because this is usually the fastest the game will register it. One frame on, one frame off, one frame on, one frame off, etc.
Qlex:
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2006-02-01 01:42:57 pm
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Okay, I get it all, thanks a lot.
The escape is still kickass, though Shocked .
toalettstol:
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2006-02-05 04:58:58 pm
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Quote from Kejardon:
The PAL conversion was a bit sloppy


Everyone for Super Nintendo is.
Cracklingdarksamus:
registered on 2006-01-27 08:42:39 pm.
 
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2006-02-05 06:04:41 pm
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I agree that the PAL was sloppy. I have the NTSC version, beat 100's of times, and one miracolus day, i went to a friends house and he had the PAL version of Super Metroid. I already knew when i played it it was slower in some states. And for some reason the colour looked weird. Maybe it was just his TV. So yea. BIG difference in both versions
Raccoon Sam:
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2006-02-06 12:15:35 am
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I always hated it whenI hummed Super Mario All-Stars themes on my real SNES, and the song went slower than in my emu, because In my emu I had the NTSC version..
Daniel, Lord Bahamut:
registered on 2004-08-24 10:44:39 pm.
 
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2006-02-06 02:02:42 am
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Mega Flare
This was posted about over at bisqwit's, but I can't seem to access the site right now, so I'll see if I can get the calculations right...

NTSC runs at 60 frames per second, while PAL runs at 50 frames per second. That means you have 10 less frames to work with in a second. If you use smokey's 0:36 as an example (assuming an exact completion time of 36 minutes), utilizing all the same tricks to achieve the same time, he uses 129,600 frames on NTSC, but would use 129600+(10*2160)=151200 frames, or 42 minutes, on PAL. Assume skipping the Torizo fight saves 30 seconds, or 1800 frames: 151200-1800=149400, which is still longer than 36 minutes.

Just a novelty, a cool thing, but it has little use in an actual speed run.
Chanoire:
registered on 2004-09-13 05:00:10 pm.
 
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2006-02-06 02:17:12 am
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And did you take into account that Samus was sped up in the PAL version to compensate for the game running at 5/6ths speed, which is why things like the Torizo escape work?
Daniel, Lord Bahamut:
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2006-02-06 02:46:22 am
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Mega Flare
Since I'm citing bisqwit's, I'm looking at it from a TASer's point of view. How much faster does Samus move? I don't think it would make much of a difference overall, since so much time is lost. Unless you're playing a PAL cart on an NTSC console, which would run ~16.7% faster.
evilchen:
registered on 2006-01-06 09:07:06 am.
 
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2006-02-06 08:30:21 am
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you can see the result at the escaping time in ceres watch saturns time and terimakashis (both tas but saturn uses L/R-2frame trick/bug)