Can Somebody tell me what is this?

view all posts by Mr. Aran

2005-10-01 12:29:26 pm

Well.. I found it from the gfx of Super Metroid, and I can't figure out what it is..
I checked out all the local palettes, but I still couldn't understand it.
Soo.. If You can see what it is, please tell me.
Thanks. :)

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Liam:

registered on 2005-09-08 05:15:05 am.

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Liam

2005-10-01 02:26:36 pm

Reminds me of Ridley. Rolling Eyes

Mr. Aran:

registered on 2004-12-28 12:30:48 pm.

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Mr. Aran

2005-10-01 02:35:36 pm

everybody knows it's true

A glitchy form of lower norfair entrance, more likely. Or one of those puzzle things.

Chanoire:

registered on 2004-09-13 05:00:10 pm.

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Chanoire

2005-10-01 03:37:56 pm

I rarely want pictures in forums to be larger, but could you provide a larger one? I'm having a hard time seeing what's going on in the patches with the most colors.

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland

2005-10-01 03:52:00 pm

:)
If You're using Firefox, you can Zoom on it.
In case that you don't, Put it in Paint and zoom.
In case you don't have Paint, Put it on Picture Viewer and Zoom.
In case You don't have any kinds of Picture handling application, or in case you have a DOS, then I can't help you. Wink

trh:

registered on 2003-12-16 08:57:09 am.

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trh

2005-10-01 04:00:11 pm

Quote from Raccoon Sam:

:)
If You're using Firefox, you can Zoom on it.

Woah, how?

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland

2005-10-01 04:03:26 pm

I don't know.
But, As Far as I'vr heard, You can.
Correct me if I'm mistaken.
Or Maybe it was Opera. I dunno.

trh:

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trh

2005-10-01 04:14:52 pm

Quote from Raccoon Sam:

I don't know.
But, As Far as I'vr heard, You can.
Correct me if I'm mistaken.
Or Maybe it was Opera. I dunno.

Wouldn't surprise me if there's an extension that adds something like that. But as far as I know it's not possible without any extras.

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland

view all posts by Kejardon

2005-10-01 04:16:50 pm

Okay then.
Sorry for the confusion.

Kejardon:

registered on 2004-12-07 07:21:36 pm.

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Kejardon

2005-10-01 06:31:41 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

I think this pic will help. :)

Can't figure out those last four small square blocks...

::edit:: Haha... my picture is smaller than your picture! XD ::/edit::

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LifeMega:

registered on 2005-09-24 06:38:53 pm.

Location: AAAGHH! THE METROID'S GOT MY HEAD!

2005-10-01 11:30:27 pm

*applauds*
Good job. But what exactly is the gold thing? Part of the statue room? And perhaps the last blocks are part of something else in the statue room?

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland

2005-10-01 11:50:03 pm

Good job! :D
Thanks Kej!

LifeMega:

registered on 2005-09-24 06:38:53 pm.

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2005-10-02 12:41:27 am

I think the bottom of the four is Phantoon's eye socket, and the other three are also parts of Phantoon. He is missing a chunk after all.

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland

2005-10-02 02:19:44 am

Actually, Not.
You see, the both sides of Phantoon's eyes are symmetric. So the developers thought that it will be easier to just make the right side, and make it mirror to it's horizontal axis. I could, of course be mistaken, correct me if I am.

And those little 8x8 Tiles are supposedly Ridley's eye tiles (?).

LifeMega:

registered on 2005-09-24 06:38:53 pm.

Location: AAAGHH! THE METROID'S GOT MY HEAD!

2005-10-02 03:24:20 am

As you can see, it isn't reflected. Ridley's eye? maybe the third one. Perhaps those are the glowing eye sprites for Phantoon and Ridley?

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland

2005-10-02 03:57:08 am

Oh. Sorry.
And By the way, neither one of those are eyes.
I erased those from the game gfx totally, and went to the boss statue room.
There were only floating eyes. o_O
So this proves that those can't be eyes.

LifeMega:

registered on 2005-09-24 06:38:53 pm.

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2005-10-02 02:22:18 pm

So the whole statue was gone EXCEPT the eyes? Hmmm... The entire statue is four separate sprites... each one of the four squares must be connected to a different boss statue. Would erasing a small area of a sprite cause the whole thing not to show up? Or are these some kind of master square thingys that control the whole sprite? Try deleting one at a time to see what happens. It seems strange how they were sitting in a corner by themselves in the original pic.

Kejardon:

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Kejardon

2005-10-02 02:31:01 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

A bit of extra info:
The pic on the right is straight from the game, with all layers except the sprite layer disabled. Apparently, the Kraid and Draygon statues are not sprites.
The green stuff on the bottom is there in the game, too... I think it's just moss on the bottom of the statues. It looks a lot better in the game.

LifeMega:

registered on 2005-09-24 06:38:53 pm.

Location: AAAGHH! THE METROID'S GOT MY HEAD!

2005-10-02 02:44:04 pm

It seems that Ridley-Phantoon are sprites (as well as the goldish thing, which is the statue's base), and Kraid-Draygon are part of BG2.

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland

view all posts by Kejardon

2005-10-02 02:56:20 pm

Yup.
As for 8 Hours of trying to find something new from the gfx, I didn't find anything new. But I found a suspiciously strange part, which I think that is Draygon's body. I'll change Codecs, Make some Row-Interleaving, and some pixel dithering, and see what I'll find.
Right now I cannot do that. I'll go to sleep now, and continue tomorrow. Until then, bye.

Kejardon:

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Kejardon

2005-10-02 03:21:54 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

About the only noteworthy thing I've seen was pointed out to me by Ultima, it was a bit of katakana that spelled 'Obakeen', which I'm guessing was Phantoon's original/beta name that was changed for no apparent reason.
I don't remember where in the rom it was, though. Sorry. :/

Raccoon Sam:

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view all posts by fIshbOnEz

2005-10-03 05:45:45 am

Heeey...
I think I've seen some kind of a Japanese Character while searching for Kraid..
I'll check again.

fIshbOnEz:

registered on 2005-10-31 01:05:42 pm.

Location: Under a Metroids Tenticles... ewwww...

fIshbOnEz

2005-11-08 12:59:34 pm

[chronically late.. again and always]

If any more Japanese characters show up post them. Its my understanding that at least a few of the board members [including myself] can read japanese, it may give us more insight into the programming.

Raccoon Sam:

registered on 2005-07-10 12:01:04 pm.

Location: Finland