Are you for or against gay marriage?

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2009-05-23 08:30:18 pm

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Girls have boobs. 'Nuff said.

So do some guys!

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2009-05-23 08:55:07 pm

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Why would any male want to be gay?!?!?!?

Girls have boobs. This is true. However, just like there's girls who prefer boobs, there's guys who prefer cocks.

Me, I'll go for either. I'm bisexual.

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2009-05-23 08:58:08 pm

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2009-05-23 09:08:33 pm

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2009-05-23 09:14:15 pm

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Awesome is the official term. I wish I was bi, it would be pretty sweet. Sadly though by sheer force of will I have not succeded into turning myself into one :(

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2009-05-23 09:24:02 pm

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You aren't trying hard enough. You must stare longingly at every picture of a wang you can find, with Google image search aspiring faggots have it much easier than those back in the day.

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Ah fuck, I failed to take the viking corollary into a account. Can't complain about equal opportunity.

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Outburn3

2009-05-23 09:25:05 pm

However, just like there's girls who prefer boobs

[/quote]

I was talking about gay males not gay females.

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2009-05-23 09:29:11 pm

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Chicks can get it on as much as they like, but dudes need to stay the fuck away from each other. That shit's an abomination.

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2009-05-23 10:11:08 pm

Yo.

This topic is blowing up faster than cars in an action movie.

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Chicks can get it on as much as they like, but dudes need to stay the fuck away from each other. That shit's an abomination.

To you. Everyone != you.

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2009-05-23 10:27:10 pm

Servin' you realness!!

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FACT 1: No one in this entire world is 100% straight or gay. Sexuality is incredibly complicated within each individual and many different factors contribute to any given person's sexual identity.

I won't totally disagree with that, however most people lean so far one way or another that they pretty much end up with one sex or the other. True bisexuals are the rarest breed of all, imo.

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FACT 4: Homosexuality does not have to be genetic for there to be no choice involved about how straight or gay an individual is. If everyone is born neutral and the sexual identity is built up during the early life, that is still far beyond a person's ability to control. If, to take an absurd scenario, everyone who sees a stop sign at the instant they become seven years old will grow up fancying their own gender, that doesn't mean that they necessarily know this or are able to choose whether or not to do this. Even if they were, as a rule, able to choose, they would be too young at seven to be able to intelligently make this choice and should not be held accountable for this in their adult life, whatever form that accountability might take.

This is an interesting point. The biggest indicator that gayness is genetic is that just about any mother can tell you that they knew their child was different from the time they were very very young. However, there are sets of identical twins out there where one is undeniably gay and one is undeniably straight. Identical twins have the same DNA so one could argue that it is not genetic. The latest theories have to do with conditions in the womb. I even heard about one study that said it something to do with drugs given to the mother during the birthing process! I like how you pointed out that whatever it is, it is beyond the persons control, because I truly believe that.

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And what do your religious beliefs have to do with anyone but yourself anyways? The idea that your religious OPINIONS are a basis for law is completely unamerican

HEAR THAT! YOUR OPINIONS ARE UNAMURICAN TAKE YER SOCIALIST OPINIONS BACK TO CANADA YA DAMNED COMMIE PINKO FAGGOT!

ROFL

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I know it sounds... well, okay. Stupid. But lets say someone is naturally "straight". I'm suggesting that they could take the time and make themselves' gay if they put forth the effort. So why wouldn't it work in reverse?

Where the hell are these people who change their sexual identity at will? Are you one of them? Sure some religious groups have nabbed a few gays and forced them to go back into the closet to save them from eternal damnation, but the vast majority of them couldn't 'change' their sexual identity any more than a hetero could change into a gay person. It just doesn't work that way. The scientific community recognizes that it's not a disorder - there's no need to change or 'cure' gay people. Those ideas are based solely upon religious ideals and have no basis in fact (or common sense).

[quote="SABERinBLUE"]

FACT 1:  No one in this entire world is 100% straight or gay.  Sexuality is incredibly complicated within each individual and many different factors contribute to any given person's sexual identity.  [/quote]

I won't totally disagree with that, however most people lean so far one way or another that they pretty much end up with one sex or the other.  True bisexuals are the rarest breed of all, imo.

[quote="SABERinBLUE"]
FACT 4:  Homosexuality does not have to be genetic for there to be no choice involved about how straight or gay an individual is.  If everyone is born neutral and the sexual identity is built up during the early life, that is still far beyond a person's ability to control.  If, to take an absurd scenario, everyone who sees a stop sign at the instant they become seven years old will grow up fancying their own gender, that doesn't mean that they necessarily know this or are able to choose whether or not to do this.  Even if they were, as a rule, able to choose, they would be too young at seven to be able to intelligently make this choice and should not be held accountable for this in their adult life, whatever form that accountability might take.  
[/quote]

This is an interesting point.  The biggest indicator that gayness is genetic is that just about any mother can tell you that they knew their child was different from the time they were very very young.  However, there are sets of identical twins out there where one is undeniably gay and one is undeniably straight.  Identical twins have the same DNA so one could argue that it is not genetic.  The latest theories have to do with conditions in the womb.  I even heard about one study that said it something to do with drugs given to the mother during the birthing process!  I like how you pointed out that whatever it is, it is beyond the persons control, because I truly believe that.

[quote="tomatobob"]
[quote="Opium"]
And what do your religious beliefs have to do with anyone but yourself anyways?  The idea that your religious OPINIONS are a basis for law is completely unamerican[/quote]

HEAR THAT! YOUR OPINIONS ARE UNAMURICAN TAKE YER SOCIALIST OPINIONS BACK TO CANADA YA DAMNED COMMIE PINKO FAGGOT!
[/quote]

ROFL

[quote="Gaius_4"]
I know it sounds...  well, okay.  Stupid.  But lets say someone is naturally "straight".  I'm suggesting that they could take the time and make themselves' gay if they put forth the effort.  So why wouldn't it work in reverse?  
[/quote]

Where the hell are these people who change their sexual identity at will?  Are you one of them?  Sure some religious groups have nabbed a few gays and forced them to go back into the closet to save them from eternal damnation, but the vast majority of them couldn't 'change' their sexual identity any more than a hetero could change into a gay person.  It just doesn't work that way.  The scientific community recognizes that it's not a disorder - there's no need to change or 'cure' gay people.  Those ideas are based solely upon religious ideals and  have no basis in fact (or common sense).

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2009-05-23 10:42:38 pm

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The only reason I've responded to the topic is because I care what happens to people. Why would I bother to tell people that a certain behavior or law is wrong? What would it profit me? Why waste the energy? I speak to profit everyone in this forum who reads this. I write all of this to WARN people.

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Homosexuality is only just one of the bazillion choices a person might make in his/her life. So why speak against it? What has resulted from the choice of homosexuality? Does the news tell you what happens in those relationships? Is it just as simple as living your life "la-tee-da" and having sex with the same sex?

How does homosexuality start? Doesn't it start when someone of the same sex APPEALS TO YOUR EYES -- your SEXUAL DRIVE? It's all about associating the sexual drive to someone of the same sex. That's how fetishes are, even.

Marriage isn't founded on having the pleasure of sex with another person/animal. The sexual drive is useless, unless ultimately a man and a woman come together, have sex, and make children. Women have the natural instinct to raise their children. Men have the natural instinct to protect and provide. A man and a woman get to know each other, a bond that can't be described by just sexuality is formed, and they live together and (for the most part) have children together. Then they work together to raise the children, teaching them.

What is the purpose of the laws concerning marriage? The laws in the past existed for SOME reason. If people want to change marriage laws based on the times, then they have the freedom to do that.

-I won't ever support that because gay marriage has nothing to do with marriage, but is a marriage look-alike.

-What about love?

Does the homosexual care about the other person? What are the limits? Is the "love" just a sexual feeling, or an agreement to have sex at leisure and at the same time enjoy benefits?

People don't choose homosexuality/bisexuality/(other)-sexuality or even having sex with many people because they care about the other person. A person has a sexual drive and makes a choice in how they want to fulfill it.

Why has there even been a debate on the union of a man and woman versus the legally-recognized agreement. Marriage is NOT a legal contract between two people who go into it because IT SUITS THEMSELVES. What happens when one partner makes a decision that the other partner disagrees with, even strongly. Will that person just quit the relationship, just because it doesn't suit themselves anymore. Is the sex better for them then the disadvantages to their own purposes?

Why are all of you in a relationship?

-If any laws define marriage as just a hollow shell to fit any number of men or women or animals in them, then I'll never support it.

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-My arguments have NOTHING to do with "keeping gay people in bondage". That definition of bondage is the same thing as anarchy, saying that if you can't get your way, you're a slave. What's so free about getting your own way?
-Also, have a child and let it do anything it wants without correcting it and see how the child grows up. Are you "keeping the child in bondage"? Is raising a child torture? cruelty?
-Anyone in this world can be happy with anything. Someone can be "happy" and kill hundreds of people. Someone can be "happy" and murder your mother, father. What does "happy" have to do with life, IF you just die at the end and all is over for you?

The only reason I've responded to the topic is because I care what happens to people.  Why would I bother to tell people that a certain behavior or law is wrong?  What would it profit me?  Why waste the energy?  I speak to profit everyone in this forum who reads this.  I write all of this to WARN people.

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Homosexuality is only just one of the bazillion choices a person might make in his/her life.  So why speak against it?  What has resulted from the choice of homosexuality?  Does the news tell you what happens in those relationships?  Is it just as simple as living your life "la-tee-da" and having sex with the same sex?

How does homosexuality start?  Doesn't it start when someone of the same sex APPEALS TO YOUR EYES -- your SEXUAL DRIVE?  It's all about associating the sexual drive to someone of the same sex.  That's how fetishes are, even.

Marriage isn't founded on having the pleasure of sex with another person/animal.  The sexual drive is useless, unless ultimately a man and a woman come together, have sex, and make children.  Women have the natural instinct to raise their children.  Men have the natural instinct to protect and provide.  A man and a woman get to know each other, a bond that can't be described by just sexuality is formed, and they live together and (for the most part) have children together.  Then they work together to raise the children, teaching them.

What is the purpose of the laws concerning marriage?  The laws in the past existed for SOME reason.  If people want to change marriage laws based on the times, then they have the freedom to do that.

-I won't ever support that because gay marriage has nothing to do with marriage, but is a marriage look-alike.

-What about love?

Does the homosexual care about the other person?  What are the limits?  Is the "love" just a sexual feeling, or an agreement to have sex at leisure and at the same time enjoy benefits?

People don't choose homosexuality/bisexuality/(other)-sexuality or even having sex with many people because they care about the other person.  A person has a sexual drive and makes a choice in how they want to fulfill it.

Why has there even been a debate on the union of a man and woman versus the legally-recognized agreement.  Marriage is NOT a legal contract between two people who go into it because IT SUITS THEMSELVES.  What happens when one partner makes a decision that the other partner disagrees with, even strongly.  Will that person just quit the relationship, just because it doesn't suit themselves anymore.  Is the sex better for them then the disadvantages to their own purposes?

Why are all of you in a relationship?

-If any laws define marriage as just a hollow shell to fit any number of men or women or animals in them, then I'll never support it.

====

-My arguments have NOTHING to do with "keeping gay people in bondage".  That definition of bondage is the same thing as anarchy, saying that if you can't get your way, you're a slave.  What's so free about getting your own way?
-Also, have a child and let it do anything it wants without correcting it and see how the child grows up.  Are you "keeping the child in bondage"?  Is raising a child torture?  cruelty?
-Anyone in this world can be happy with anything.  Someone can be "happy" and kill hundreds of people.  Someone can be "happy" and murder your mother, father.  What does "happy" have to do with life, IF you just die at the end and all is over for you?

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2009-05-23 10:57:03 pm

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Chicks can get it on as much as they like, but dudes need to stay the fuck away from each other. That shit's an abomination.

To you. Everyone != you.

Zhs2, you're out of your element.

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-What about love?

Does the homosexual care about the other person? What are the limits? Is the "love" just a sexual feeling, or an agreement to have sex at leisure and at the same time enjoy benefits?

Of course not, dem fags can't love. The bible says so.

Also,

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-My arguments have NOTHING to do with "keeping gay people in bondage". That definition of bondage is the same thing as anarchy, saying that if you can't get your way, you're a slave. What's so free about getting your own way?

what?

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2009-05-23 11:05:53 pm

Servin' you realness!!

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The only reason I've responded to the topic is because I care what happens to people. Why would I bother to tell people that a certain behavior or law is wrong? What would it profit me? Why waste the energy? I speak to profit everyone in this forum who reads this. I write all of this to WARN people.

WARN people about what? All banning gay marriage does is hurt people, it has no effect on your life whatsoever. All the bad things that opponents of gay marriage predict will happen have NOT happened in other countries where gay marriage has been legal for years. It's just propaganda coming from the right wing and you fell for it. Having the desire to support legislation that clearly discriminates against millions and saying you care about people at the same time is a paradox.

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Homosexuality is only just one of the bazillion choices a person might make in his/her life. So why speak against it? What has resulted from the choice of homosexuality? Does the news tell you what happens in those relationships? Is it just as simple as living your life "la-tee-da" and having sex with the same sex?

Listen: IT'S NOT A CHOICE. Homosexuals have the same lives that straight people do, they are attracted to the same sex instead of the opposite sex. The biggest 'problem' with homosexuality is all the crap that feces-throwing homophobic monkeys stir up with their ignorant BS.

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How does homosexuality start? Doesn't it start when someone of the same sex APPEALS TO YOUR EYES -- your SEXUAL DRIVE? It's all about associating the sexual drive to someone of the same sex. That's how fetishes are, even.

After reading this I am seriously starting to believe that you are a heterosexual who has an interest in trying homo-sex and feel great shame over it.

[quote="tjp7154"]
The only reason I've responded to the topic is because I care what happens to people.  Why would I bother to tell people that a certain behavior or law is wrong?  What would it profit me?  Why waste the energy?  I speak to profit everyone in this forum who reads this.  I write all of this to WARN people.  [/quote]

WARN people about what?  All banning gay marriage does is hurt people, it has no effect on your life whatsoever.  All the bad things that opponents of gay marriage predict will happen have NOT happened in other countries where gay marriage has been legal for years.  It's just propaganda coming from the right wing and you fell for it.   Having the desire to support legislation that clearly discriminates against millions and saying you care about people at the same time is a paradox.

[quote="tjp7154"]
Homosexuality is only just one of the bazillion choices a person might make in his/her life.  So why speak against it?  What has resulted from the choice of homosexuality?  Does the news tell you what happens in those relationships?  Is it just as simple as living your life "la-tee-da" and having sex with the same sex?[/quote]

Listen:  IT'S NOT A CHOICE.   Homosexuals have the same lives that straight people do, they are attracted to the same sex instead of the opposite sex.   The biggest 'problem' with homosexuality is all the crap that feces-throwing homophobic monkeys stir up with their ignorant BS.

[quote="tjp7154"]
How does homosexuality start?  Doesn't it start when someone of the same sex APPEALS TO YOUR EYES -- your SEXUAL DRIVE?  It's all about associating the sexual drive to someone of the same sex.  That's how fetishes are, even.[/quote]

After reading this I am seriously starting to believe that you are a heterosexual who has an interest in trying homo-sex and feel great shame over it.

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2009-05-23 11:12:42 pm

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Sorry for the vagueness. I was referring to the idea that the argument that "not tailoring the marriage law to homosexuals is denying their freedoms (bondage)" is the same as saying "not allowing a child to do whatever he/she wants is cruel (bondage)", even though it is harmful to the child.

I'm basically saying that it is NOT harmful to deny the marriage status to homosexual relationships.

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Zhs2

2009-05-23 11:22:08 pm

Yo.

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To you. Everyone != you.

Zhs2, you're out of your element.

Whose element? The way I see it, I != you, so it's only natural to conclude that many other people != you.

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People don't choose homosexuality/bisexuality/(other)-sexuality or even having sex with many people because they care about the other person. A person has a sexual drive and makes a choice in how they want to fulfill it.

I have to disagree here. Why would someone go to the lengths of choosing a specific person to have around for the rest of your lifetime when, as you say, they could go make it with anybody? Sure, I know there are people like that in the world, but that is not everyone!

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2009-05-23 11:25:37 pm

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To you. Everyone != you.

Zhs2, you're out of your element.

Whose element? The way I see it, I != you, so it's only natural to conclude that many other people != you.

You are failing it.

Alternatively-
Obviously you're not a golfer.

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2009-05-23 11:55:22 pm

Servin' you realness!!

My BF just brought up a good point. A gay man sees a voluptuous woman. This woman is so gorgeous that nearly any heterosexual man on Earth would want to get with her. The voluptuous woman flirts with the gay man. What goes through the gay man's mind?

1) The gay man is obviously excited over the woman, but he remembers the 'choice' he made to be gay long ago and has vowed never to go back on it. He fights this hetero-urge with every fiber of his being and with great difficulty he turns the woman down. Gay men are very very good at controlling this to stay true to the choice they have made. He goes to bed that night proud of himself for staying true to his choice.

2) The gay man looks upon the beautiful woman and thinks her outfit looks fabulous and is jealous. He feels no sexual attraction because he IS GAY. Just like when a straight man sees a handsome man he is not sexually aroused. He may acknowledge that the man looks great and may feel jealous, but not turned on.

I ask those who believe homosexuality to be a choice to compare these 2 scenarios. The answer is obvious to anyone who has any common sense.

My BF just brought up a good point.  A gay man sees a voluptuous woman.  This woman is so gorgeous that nearly any heterosexual man on Earth would want to get with her.  The voluptuous woman flirts with the gay man.  What goes through the gay man's mind?

1) The gay man is obviously excited over the woman, but he remembers the 'choice' he made to be gay long ago and has vowed never to go back on it.  He fights this hetero-urge with every fiber of his being and with great difficulty he turns the woman down.  Gay men are very very good at controlling this to stay true to the choice they have made.  He goes to bed that night proud of himself for staying true to his choice.

2) The gay man looks upon the beautiful woman and thinks her outfit looks fabulous and is jealous.   He feels no sexual attraction because he IS GAY.  Just like when a straight man sees a handsome man he is not sexually aroused.  He may acknowledge that the man looks great and may feel jealous, but not turned on.

I ask those who believe homosexuality to be a choice to compare these 2 scenarios.  The answer is obvious to anyone who has any common sense.

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2009-05-24 12:19:05 am

Death to skinfags, sieg heil.

Quote from Opium:

I ask those who believe homosexuality to be a choice to compare these 2 scenarios. The answer is obvious to anyone who has any common sense.

I think there are more then just two possible outcomes to that scenario. I'm sure there are gay guys who are determined to be gay, and not heterosexual, and would deny a girl, but I am also sure there are other gay guys who (while not being BI-sexual) will still be aroused by women.

Quote from KennyMan666:

Girls have boobs. This is true. However, just like there's girls who prefer boobs, there's guys who prefer cocks.

Me, I'll go for either. I'm bisexual.

ummm just because a chick likes another chicks boobs doesn't make them a lesbian, its like one guy liking another guy's abs; it might be kinda creepy if they are not gay, but it doesn't make them gay. Now if a chick likes another girl's vagina, then that would be more on the lesbian side. Just because seeing another women's breasts gets me excited (not 'horny' or 'aroused') that doesn't make me a lesbian =P

[quote="Opium"]
I ask those who believe homosexuality to be a choice to compare these 2 scenarios.  The answer is obvious to anyone who has any common sense. 
[/quote]

I think there are more then just two possible outcomes to that scenario. I'm sure there are gay guys who are determined to be gay, and not heterosexual, and would deny a girl, but I am also sure there are other gay guys who (while not being BI-sexual) will still be aroused by women.

[quote="KennyMan666"]
Girls have boobs. This is true. However, just like there's girls who prefer boobs, there's guys who prefer cocks.

Me, I'll go for either. I'm bisexual.
[/quote]

ummm just because a chick likes another chicks boobs doesn't make them a lesbian, its like one guy liking another guy's abs; it might be kinda creepy if they are not gay, but it doesn't make them gay. Now if a chick likes another girl's vagina, then that would be more on the lesbian side. Just because seeing another women's breasts gets me excited (not 'horny' or 'aroused') that doesn't make me a lesbian =P

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2009-05-24 12:25:18 am

Never stressed

This means that you are slightly gay. Go to visit a doctor immediately before the gay takes over. Nip this in the bud before you too become a degenerate abomination heathen beast.

Opium:

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2009-05-24 01:00:12 am

Servin' you realness!!

Quote from Poision Envy:

Quote from Opium:

I ask those who believe homosexuality to be a choice to compare these 2 scenarios. The answer is obvious to anyone who has any common sense.

I think there are more then just two possible outcomes to that scenario. I'm sure there are gay guys who are determined to be gay, and not heterosexual, and would deny a girl, but I am also sure there are other gay guys who (while not being BI-sexual) will still be aroused by women.

There's two scenarios from this concept: the gay man is either aroused or he isn't. And nobody is DETERMINED to be gay.

Quote from Poision Envy:

Quote from KennyMan666:

Girls have boobs. This is true. However, just like there's girls who prefer boobs, there's guys who prefer cocks.

Me, I'll go for either. I'm bisexual.

ummm just because a chick likes another chicks boobs doesn't make them a lesbian, its like one guy liking another guy's abs; it might be kinda creepy if they are not gay, but it doesn't make them gay. Now if a chick likes another girl's vagina, then that would be more on the lesbian side. Just because seeing another women's breasts gets me excited (not 'horny' or 'aroused') that doesn't make me a lesbian =P

I'm quite sure he meant 'like' as in 'aroused by'. If seeing another womans boobs makes you aroused then you are right, it doesn't make you a lesbian. What would make you a lesbian is if you were attracted to women INSTEAD OF men.

And i think it's very common for people to have bisexual tendencies. The vast majority of people lean one way or the other though. A gay man could have sex with a woman out of curiosity but could never see himself dating one.

[quote="Poision Envy"]
[quote="Opium"]
I ask those who believe homosexuality to be a choice to compare these 2 scenarios.  The answer is obvious to anyone who has any common sense. 
[/quote]

I think there are more then just two possible outcomes to that scenario. I'm sure there are gay guys who are determined to be gay, and not heterosexual, and would deny a girl, but I am also sure there are other gay guys who (while not being BI-sexual) will still be aroused by women.[/quote]

There's two scenarios from this concept: the gay man is either aroused or he isn't.   And nobody is DETERMINED to be gay.

[quote="Poision Envy"]
[quote="KennyMan666"]
Girls have boobs. This is true. However, just like there's girls who prefer boobs, there's guys who prefer cocks.

Me, I'll go for either. I'm bisexual.
[/quote]

ummm just because a chick likes another chicks boobs doesn't make them a lesbian, its like one guy liking another guy's abs; it might be kinda creepy if they are not gay, but it doesn't make them gay. Now if a chick likes another girl's vagina, then that would be more on the lesbian side. Just because seeing another women's breasts gets me excited (not 'horny' or 'aroused') that doesn't make me a lesbian =P
[/quote]

I'm quite sure he meant 'like' as in 'aroused by'.    If seeing another womans boobs makes you aroused then you are right, it doesn't make you a lesbian.  What would make you a lesbian is if you were attracted to women INSTEAD OF men.

And i think it's very common for people to have bisexual tendencies.  The vast majority of people lean one way or the other though.  A gay man could have sex with a woman out of curiosity but could never see himself dating one.

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