answer on where did the Wrecked Ship Came from

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Super KB: 2009-03-25 07:00:47 am

2009-03-25 04:26:41 am

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IF you are wondering the wrecked ship came from, it came from Metroid Zero Mission, because think about... ZM was actually Samus's very first true story mission on Zebes and after the space mother ship was blown up it was just left sitting there on the planet in wrecked shape. She inflitrates it again during her search for the Gravity Suit. You'll see the familiar enemies like the walking robots and the atom like balls that be shooting at you on both SM and ZM

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Opium

2009-03-25 04:54:44 am

Who asked this question ?

Super KB

2009-03-25 05:18:01 am

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somebody on here did i just cant remember who

tomatobob

2009-03-25 07:17:06 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

A good number of people came to this very conclusion years ago, probably had something to do with Zero Mission being released.

Not exactly a mind blowing revelation here.

TheGreenManalishi

2009-03-25 12:06:35 pm

The ship is a lie.

Cpadolf

2009-03-25 02:01:03 pm

Almost happy

Somehow I doubt that the developers thought about it at all.

horscht(i)

2009-03-25 02:19:29 pm

defrag in progress

The robots were used in SM, which was releases long before ZM.
So another possible conclusion is that the developers simply put them in ZM to have some familiar elements.
Their appearance in both games/ships proofs nothing.

But anyway: Who cares?

/E: Just remembered that there was a passage in the german Super Metroid Guide about the wrecked ship being an alien space vessel that crashed decades ago.

uNsane

2009-03-25 05:53:07 pm

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Quote from tomatobob:

A good number of people came to this very conclusion years ago, probably had something to do with Zero Mission being released.

Not exactly a mind blowing revelation here.

I thought it was established that they are not the same. I never thought it was, myself, since the interiors are completely different and they are in different locations on Zebes (iirc).

tomatobob

2009-03-25 06:08:10 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

I don't know, I seem to remember some talk around here about the ship becoming part of Maridia back in the day, but I'm pretty sure that this was the popular theory.

Lucied Unlimited

2009-03-25 06:25:09 pm

All aboard the soul train

Didn't the Pirate Ship... explode? That explosion implied to me "THIS SHIP IS GONE, BITCH LOL!"

The Wrecked Ship doesn't look blown up, it looks... old.

tomatobob

2009-03-25 06:36:58 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Exploding doesn't seem to stop Ridley for very long.

Gamma_Metroid

2009-03-25 09:19:44 pm

I think it's just a Space Pirate ship from far away, and that's how the pink Space Pirates got into Maridia. I think a better question is how Phantoon came about.

horscht(i)

2009-03-26 07:10:38 am

defrag in progress

The before mentioned official game guide (which is somehow just the translation of the english/japanese version) says that the inhabitants of the crashed ship where attacked by an energy consuming life form named Phantoon.
That`s why the power is restored when Phantoon is killed.

So Phantoon`s roots seem to lie on Zebes.

Opium

2009-03-26 07:49:52 am

Quote from horscht(i):

The before mentioned official game guide (which is somehow just the translation of the english/japanese version) says that the inhabitants of the crashed ship where attacked by an energy consuming life form named Phantoon.
That`s why the power is restored when Phantoon is killed.

So Phantoon`s roots seem to lie on Zebes.

Interesting. But how does that lead to the conclusion that Phantoon's origins are of Zebes? When I first read your post, I envisioned the ship encountering/picking up Phantoon somewhere else and then crashing on Zebes once Phantoon had taken over the ship therefore causing the crash itself. I suppose it is possible that there was another reason that caused them to crash on Zebes and then Phantoon came along afterwards to make things even worse...

horscht(i)

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horscht(i): 2009-03-26 09:04:50 am

2009-03-26 08:58:09 am

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So, from what we know both our conclusions make sense: Phantoon is from Zebes and attacked the ship after it stranded or Phantoon caused minor problems, which forced the ship to land/crash.

Translation of the paragraph: "Many decades ago astronauts of a foreign civilization landed on Zebes. But only the ship is left."
(Sadly I am not able to translate the last sentence word by word. But I think you get the idea.)
And then there is the part about Phantoon, who absorbs all the ship`s remaining energy so the systems do not work.

But to answer the initial question of the topic: SM`s wrecked ship is not the exploded space pirate mothership from ZM, because of what is written in the official SM Game Guide.

Quietus

2009-03-26 09:51:26 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

I have that full book at home, so I'll look at it later, and fill you in on what it says.

Perhaps it was a living ship, and it got 'wrecked', which is why it crashed? Maybe Phantoon got intoxicated by the ship, and that's why he believes he can spit fire and disappear at will... Eh?

horscht(i)

2009-03-26 01:39:36 pm

defrag in progress

Maybe Mother Brain and Draygoon had a date and Phantoon is the "output".

Quietus

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Quietus: 2009-03-26 07:42:17 pm

2009-03-26 07:31:11 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Here's a bunch of pics displaying various bits of info, including unusual spellings for the beams, and a statement saying that the Wrecked Ship is from an expedition from centuries ago. (Even though it later mentions millennia)

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2009-03-26 07:41:32 pm

All aboard the soul train

That has to be the plainest cover for a guide I've seen.

TJF588

2009-03-27 06:21:34 am

once GameFAQs, now Twitch

Since I only skimmed after some point, it may have been stated, but IIRC it was stated as NOT the same in a Q&A from the Japanese ZM site (can't read that moonspeak, so no first-hand here). Also, I'm rather influenced by teh mangaz.

Quietus

2009-03-27 06:30:32 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

'Tis true. One rough translation of the response from Yoshio Sakamoto (Metroid's Director) is below:

"Q: In the Space Pirate Mothership, the bipedal working robots that don't attack are there, is that the same type as the work robots that appear in Super Metroid? Does the space pirate mothership (which explodes) eventually rust over and become the wrecked ship stage from Super Metroid? Please, by all means, teach.

A: As for that worker robot in the space ship. That is a very common labor bot and is standard for many ships. It is thought that it's the same type that appears in Super Metroid, but as far as the setting the mother ship and the wrecked ship of Super Metroid are completely different things."

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MetroidMst

2009-03-27 05:25:40 pm

Go ahead. Stare.

Kind of makes sense. Space Pirates don't just leave things behind. Even the station in Prime has pirates crawling on it after it crashes. Besides, another super-advanced species that falls prey to a floating sack with a mouth makes a better story.

TJF588

2009-03-28 06:29:10 am

once GameFAQs, now Twitch

Quote from MetroidMst:

a floating sack with a mouth

With an eye in that mouth, to boot (might've been more profound had I played SM* with no preface to its appearance, but whenever I properly noticed that detail (in a playthrough, I think), it was weirding (somewhat sub-WTF, I guess)).

*not "M3"? should I... be disappointed in myself?

Luna_Aran

2009-03-31 07:46:11 am

Super Metroid Addict

The top most room of the wrecked ship has metroids on stasis cells on the background. period.
The room where you have to fight Ki Hunters and those blobby things, and you have to kill them all or the doors won't unlock

Opium

2009-03-31 10:22:06 am

Quote from Luna_Aran:

The top most room of the wrecked ship has metroids on stasis cells on the background. period.
The room where you have to fight Ki Hunters and those blobby things, and you have to kill them all or the doors won't unlock

Really? I didn't even notice. I'll have to check that out.