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arkarian: 2010-07-08 08:25:59 pm

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2010-07-08 08:23:57 pm

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i think that was the original path i was looking at, but can you even survive through both tft and tf with one tank? iirc the heat stops in the room after twin fires (north core tunnel).
or maybe geo is the first unheated room. that said, yeah there are wave doors on both ends of north core tunnel.

the tallon elevator room isn't heated though right? so maybe looking for a sw in there would be worthwhile.

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Paraxade: 2010-07-08 08:28:00 pm

2010-07-08 08:27:45 pm

I thought twin fires was the first unheated room but dunno. Would make sense, they don't expect you to get past TFT without varia.

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2010-07-08 08:28:35 pm

coral to complement blue

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don't you need pb for other stuff besides warrior anyway? like in the x-ray room and whatnot

You might be able to bomb jump out of Life Grove after collecting X-Ray without PBing the walls, and then you can come back and pick up the artifact while in a SW state like Paraxade did for 21%.

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2010-07-08 08:28:58 pm

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oh, that would be kick ass then. so is there a known way of getting through tft under 21% conditions?

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2010-07-08 08:30:21 pm

always move fast

getting into workstation secret world is probably possible by freezing a pirate next to the wave door and bomb jumping up. normally, you only have time for a pseudo-dbj (in the style of an hbj). i got into the secret world with sj this way (the unmorph gives you more height). however, when i was playing with it i noticed that if you freeze a pirate during a certain part of its animation (iirc, right when it's about to dash to the side), the freeze lasts much longer than normal. you can certainly get a normal dbj here, and probably even an hbj. i could never consistently get a long freeze though so i've never confirmed its possible though.

and i don't see why you couldn't do tft without sj via the bomb jump method. dunno if you'd have enough life without varia though.

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2010-07-08 08:31:27 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

I've been looking at the elevator to tallon overworld from magmoor and mines.

Since there's some elevator sw's on the site, I'm assuming that the gate at the top isn't really solid and that we can just clip through it. If so, I've got hope with the magmoor elevator. There's two sets of rings, blue and orange. You can easily jump on the blue rings and I've found that you can fit the morph ball in between the individual rings. I tried bomb jumping up the blue rings and it was doable, but very hard. I believe that we could get on the blue rings, dbj to squeeze into the orange rings, and make some tricky bomb jumps up to the top. Someone with AR should test just to see if the top really isn't solid.

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2010-07-08 08:32:22 pm

Very well then.

Power Bombs
1. Needed to open Phazon Elite's case.
2. Needed to get X-Ray and come back.
3. Needed to get Artifact of Spirit in Phen's Edge.
4. Needed to go to Metroid Quarantine A through Central Dynamo. (Skippable w/wallcrawl?)
5. Needed to get Plasma Beam (PAL version).
6. Needed to get to PPC from second floor.
7. Needed to get to Workstation from Magmoor/Phazon elevator.
8. ...can't think of anything else right now.

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2010-07-08 08:32:27 pm

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guess i should go take a look too. don't have ar though.

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2010-07-08 08:32:44 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

The phazon elevator is more problematic. The gate is much higher up. It's easy to get all the way up the blue and orange rings since there's gaps in the orange rings, but I don't see how you could get up to the top.

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2010-07-08 08:32:58 pm

Quote from rekameohs:

Since there's some elevator sw's on the site, I'm assuming that the gate at the top isn't really solid and that we can just clip through it.

pretty sure it is.

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rekameohs: 2010-07-08 08:34:07 pm

2010-07-08 08:33:51 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Also, the bombu secret world looks grim without charge. It starts up really high. We'd have plasma, so we could go in the little cave, but a space jump won't even land on top of it from there.

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2010-07-08 08:39:15 pm

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meh, one thing at a time :P

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2010-07-08 08:55:38 pm

In the phazon/tallon elevator i've found a spot that you may be able to clip through the wall. It's kind of like how you would enter the burning trail sw, you kind of freeze for a second and then you warp out of the stage. Dunno if i'll get anywhere with this but i'll try.

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2010-07-08 08:58:25 pm

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awesome. i'm working on the magmoor side of the magmoor/tallon elevator now

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2010-07-08 09:08:37 pm

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btw you can tell the ceiling's solid just by shooting at it. i'm trying to glitch through the walls somehow though.

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2010-07-08 09:16:51 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Damn, you're right. I think shooting didn't mean anything, but sure enough, the elevator with the sw on the site, you can just shoot through the ceiling...

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2010-07-08 09:18:25 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Either way, if a phazon elevator sw is found, I don't think we'd need the magmoor elevator one.

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