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rekameohs:
registered on 2006-02-21 08:17:36 pm.
 
Anywhere, everywhere
Jerry, afaik you need boost to do flickerball.
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
yeah i guess would just get another was of doing 21%
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
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Yes, that did just happen...
how high can you get in the phazon mines room that i forget the name

like has anyone ever got on top of the blue rings?
MilesSMB:
registered on 2010-05-15 01:15:48 am.
 
Gender: male
...Can you be more specific?
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
the blue rings in the phazon mines elevator like 2/3eds or 3/4s up the elevator shaft theres a set of blue rings
playe:
registered on 2010-06-22 10:39:51 pm.
 
Gender: male
Just your average speed-runner
Which Phazon Mines elevator?
The front one or the back one?
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
front i think the one you get to from early ice beam
T3:
registered on 2009-06-25 01:18:03 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Canada
You can climb fairly high up the elevator, iirc you can get up to the second or third blue ring. Still, there's no way a bomb jump or even a space jump would reach the top.
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
i think i amy have found a way to get up with space jump you have to go on the out side of the 2nd lowist blue ring and get really lucky and you can bsj but it seems to give the instant unmorph at random so i'm never guessing its going to happen when it does plus i dont bsj to much so im not used to it (in other words i've never done it)
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
can metorid prime can be emulated on dolphin

if so can you not use dolphin to find some other way to get to Impact crater or to somehow make the blueish teleport thing (some way to skip all or some of the artifacts) like there could be a glitch to only get like say 7 artifacts and still get to IC
playe:
registered on 2010-06-22 10:39:51 pm.
 
Gender: male
Just your average speed-runner
Yes Metroid Prime can be emulated on Dolphin, it has been for quite a while actually.

But if there were a glitch for us to get, like you said, 7 of the artifacts and then get to IC we'd more than likely have found it by now. Of course why am I saying this when it took us 6 years to find the IS to avoid losing your items in MP2? Still I find it very unlikely.
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
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Yes, that did just happen...
well other then xray its the only chance i see (well the way i see it xray is more unlikely then skiping some or all artifacts) i mean OP CAN NOT be killed with out it unless some crazy new glitch is found to ether skip fighting him and still get phazon suit  or make him get hurt by his own attacks or somthing (still less likely then artifacts)
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
i remeber reading somthing about the only way to skip artifacts is to look ast the games codeing (or somthing like that) so why cant we do that with dolphin and find somthing to set of the ridley cutseen (i think its called a distence triger or somthing like that)
toolriot:
registered on 2010-12-09 07:19:11 pm.
 
Gender: male
i know its probably way outside the box here, but i could swear i remember just kickin it with metroid prime's first form for long enough and had him change his shield to another color without me having to shoot him into doing it. (thinking about a no [ice or wave] beam run) but then again it is like 3 in the morning so i could just be trippin... just possible thoughts, i seen nobody posted anythin about this in particular yet so i thought id ask
Skull64:
registered on 2010-06-28 01:41:54 am.
 
Gender: male
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Quote from toolriot:
i know its probably way outside the box here, but i could swear i remember just kickin it with metroid prime's first form for long enough and had him change his shield to another color without me having to shoot him into doing it. (thinking about a no [ice or wave] beam run) but then again it is like 3 in the morning so i could just be trippin... just possible thoughts, i seen nobody posted anythin about this in particular yet so i thought id ask


That happens in the fourth level and possibly the third, but definitely not in the second two. This would indicate that the plasma beam is not necessary, but good luck navigating Impact Crater and the mines level 3 without it.
petrie911:
registered on 2005-09-10 02:58:48 pm.
 
So, this is more of a speed trick than an item skip, but I've been looking into getting a missile expansion other than Hive Mecha's.  Here's my thoughts...

1) A secret world in Tallon Overworld would let us get the one behind the ship.  However, Tallon Canyon's probably our only bet for that, and it seems unlikely without SJ.

2) An expansion in Main Plaza.  The one up on the halfpipe seems the most gettable, but I can't seem to reach it.  An R-dashfrom the corner near it barely misses the height needed.  Perhaps we could lure a beetle over there and use something similar to the Thardus Space Jump?

3) The expansion in Ruined Nursery (?) can just about be gotten to, but we can't actually get inside the morph ball maze.  If we could get in that room's SW I think we could get it,though.

That's about all I've got.  Not having, well, anything is so limiting.
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
Main Plaza probly you best bet but i've also tryed it and had no luck at all

the beetle thardus dash sound like a idea tho. i'll have to try that methed
Boris:
registered on 2009-03-02 11:03:21 am.
 
The Overlord of All Acorns.
might be able to use some of the ledges in main plaza to get the expansion top left from the entrance.
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
i really dout that even with SJ you need to R jump so without SJ or grapple the only way i see that one being done would be a hbj or ubj (i dont know witch is witch)
arkarian:
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registered on 2004-09-01 04:15:32 pm.
 
Gender: male
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any jump that can be made with a space jump can also be made with a bomb jump right? but you'd need missiles to get bombs in a speed run.
recit0:
registered on 2007-03-08 11:16:03 am.
 
Location: Qu�bec
not really if you need to use ghetto effect to get to that place so its more than a simple bomb jump.
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
you can get all the hight you want with bomb jumps but very little distence
Quote from arkarian:
any jump that can be made with a space jump can also be made with a bomb jump right? but you'd need missiles to get bombs in a speed run.


you can get all the hight you want with bomb jumps but very little distence
arkarian:
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registered on 2004-09-01 04:15:32 pm.
 
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don't think that's true ... a laddered hbj gets roughly the same distance as a sj iirc. see alt 21% geo core
itsPersonnal:
registered on 2010-11-14 05:38:43 pm.
 
Gender: male
Location: canada
Yes, that did just happen...
ok well thats a crazy jump and it can be done with just SJ what im saying is that you cant get the distance of a R or L jump and not close to a dash and like i said you need to R jump to get the missle in main plaza

and why are talking about differnent ways to get missles in a 21% when this topic is for 20% before we come up with speed tricks and all lets do 20%
arkarian:
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registered on 2004-09-01 04:15:32 pm.
 
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you need to r jump to get the missile main plaza? i just l jump to both of them, nothing special.