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McHazard:

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McHazard

2010-07-09 09:52:40 pm

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the ventshaft, ppc, workstation segment with likely be impossible to pull off anyway.

Well, entering the Omega Research SW might help. Is there a way in without SJ yet?

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T3

2010-07-09 10:03:35 pm

pretty sure paraxade tried but couldn't manage to get in and it doesn't seem very possible anyway.

rekameohs:

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rekameohs

2010-07-09 11:09:49 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Quote from arkarian:

sparky just told me that there's a sw in geo core that you can easily access after getting plasma (since you never raised the roof)

Can I see this? Or do you just walk right into it after the plasma door?

rekameohs:

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rekameohs

2010-07-09 11:15:52 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

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well, there's another obstacle then. getting x-ray in 20%.

Coming to tallon from the mines, you need to get to the top of gth, and those bars are still there. And afaik nobody's bomb jumped past them the other way yet.

I'm nearly certain you can open up that spinner without boost by the way. Pretty sure I remember paraxade doing it in the 21% run

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Paraxade

2010-07-09 11:18:22 pm

I'm pretty sure I just tried that a couple times and couldn't get it to work so just stopped trying because I didn't need to turn it anyway.

rekameohs:

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rekameohs

2010-07-09 11:20:40 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Ah well, my mind makes up shit all the time I suppose :P

Baby Sheegoth:

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Baby Sheegoth

2010-07-09 11:24:48 pm

TFT crossing is possible but annoying... nbd

rekameohs:

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rekameohs

2010-07-10 06:16:59 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Trying to do reverse gth bars. I used a 3bj to get over, but it won't let me get to the other side. I'm just stuck on top of the bars... There's probably a hole somewhere, but it looks like it's a lot smaller from the reverse. I wonder why though?

Baby Sheegoth:

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Baby Sheegoth

2010-07-10 09:26:42 pm

it's not.... just use a dbj

AJAX:

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AJAX: 2010-07-10 10:53:26 pm

2010-07-10 10:48:18 pm

“Well done is better than well said”

Just for curiosity's sake; I've always wondered if that GTH spinner can be manipulated like the ones in GTC and Life Grove. It could become necessary for %19 l0l. [without bombs]. Has anyone ever tried that?

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Baby Sheegoth

2010-07-10 11:20:36 pm

Quote from AJAX:

Just for curiosity's sake; I've always wondered if that GTH spinner can be manipulated like the ones in GTC and Life Grove. It could become necessary for %19 l0l. [without bombs]. Has anyone ever tried that?

You can do a jump and midairmorph over it for the back way.

Boris:

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Boris

2010-07-10 11:33:09 pm

The Overlord of All Acorns.

bombs will never be skipped in tandem with space jump unless you can get them without picking the item.

AJAX:

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AJAX

2010-07-11 12:02:49 am

“Well done is better than well said”

Quote:

for curiosity's sake

MASTER-88:

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MASTER-88

2010-07-11 08:33:50 am

Speedrunner

Much happen here.

21% is solved. That was long process take several years. Now we planned 20% run in future. Thats maybe never happen. But who know with new secret worlds used thats might be possible in future.

BTW is someone did and recorded 21% run? I wanted see it if someone are did it?

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Kharay1977: 2010-07-11 08:43:22 am

2010-07-11 08:39:50 am

Quote from MASTER-88:

BTW is someone did and recorded 21% run? I wanted see it if someone are did it?

- The fact we're trying for 20% now implies that 21% was done.
- http://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/21_topic_1038.html

Yes, 28 hours and 31 minutes. Partially the reason why you won't find a download for the whole run. Wink

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MASTER-88

2010-07-11 09:13:31 am

Speedrunner

Oh cool. Yes 28 hours are incredible slow. Thats make impossible show hold run

Last part was awesome i enjoy much his impact crater. Thats looks freaking hard.

Is anyone planned try real speedruns? Thats might be cool see hold run with accetable time. Yes i know it is freaking hard pass game with 21% items. We never will see really optimize run but i thinking if someone are planning recorded hold run thats might be more cool looking. Im not know how long its might take. Is 5 hours or less possible time?

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Kharay1977

2010-07-11 09:51:01 am

Maybe you should read the last few pages of the 21% topic and all of the 20% topic. Most of your questions are answered already.

juliano6010:

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juliano6010: 2010-07-11 10:44:35 am

2010-07-11 10:44:15 am

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Is 5 hours or less possible time?

I´m interested in it too.

About skipping Flaahgra and Varia Suit, I´m working in it this weekend. Here the video:

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Kharay1977: 2010-07-11 11:10:10 am

2010-07-11 11:08:23 am

Quote from juliano6010:

Here the video:

Maybe it's me... but, just what were you trying to do? Think

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Is 5 hours or less possible time?

Segmented - obviously. Single Segment - Maybe.

TakeChan:

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TakeChan

2010-07-11 12:01:25 pm

it is not possible to defeat Flaahagra, and then simply ignore the Varia Suit?..

Kharay1977:

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Kharay1977

2010-07-11 12:04:55 pm

Quote from TakeChan:

it is not possible to defeat Flaahagra, and then simply ignore the Varia Suit?..

Not sure it is, but, why would anyone want to do that?

I mean, getting to Magmoor without Varia isn't really an issue. If it had been, we wouldn't have had http://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/3_tank_vmr.html

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juliano6010

2010-07-11 12:12:21 pm

Quote:

Segmented - obviously

Will somebody do it?

Quote:

Maybe it's me... but, just what were you trying to do?

and

Quote:

it is not possible to defeat Flaahagra, and then simply ignore the Varia Suit?..

Emm, you need the Artifact which is there, it only appears when you beat the ghosts, and they appear after Flaahgra...

Paraxade:

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Paraxade

2010-07-11 12:25:48 pm

No. The ghosts appear after you've dropped down Suntower. It's entirely possible to trigger them and get Wild without getting Varia (which screws you out of ever getting it). Getting to Magmoor is not a problem and getting Artifact of Wild is not a problem. Varia has been skippable for a long time, just not under low% conditions (eg, no energy tanks).

TakeChan:

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TakeChan

2010-07-11 12:30:40 pm

first defeat Flaahagra..than this...(right video)

http://www.metroid2002.com/without_space_jump_artifact_of_wild.php

=skipping Varia Suit+ get arctifact of wild! bingoo!!>_>

arkarian:

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arkarian

2010-07-11 01:09:41 pm

mindfulness

fully erect

yeah you can't defeat flaahgra then leave the room normally without collecting varia (the doors are locked until you do). looks like that second vid takechan linked to would work though.